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democrite · 07-02-2016, 05:14 PM

It's something that I've thought about on and off over the years, but more recently since you Kris have provided places for people to offer feedback and are open to hearing it. If Apple long resisted larger screen sizes for iPhone and made a particular choice for its initial size, it is perhaps because certain parts of the UI are more easily accessible. On newer devices, the top toolbar perhaps remains difficult to use for some average hand size, or is at least more difficult than the bottom area, hence the older preference of bottom toolbars. If rumors are true, that may be also one of the reasons Apple is considering removing the home button.

I saw Maps in iOS 10. The persistant swipeable bottom panel is pretty interesting. Initially, I might think it's better reserved for UIs where there is no other toolbar. I'm not sure if it has its place in Marvin but perhaps for something like search. As you've added a bottom right search icon to return to search results, have you considered a bar that also includes previous/next buttons? One could also swipe up to more easily access search results, though I'm not sure if that is a good idea considering search will possibly be later accessible through a top toolbar button.

I was looking at various iOS readers and found this yesterday in Kobo:

I think panels that are more easily dismissable than by clicking the top left, for instance Deep View and search on iPad, where one can tap anywhere outside the panel to hide, may have their use for other things. TOC and annotations? Maybe. The size of the panel could be a bit bigger, maybe a bit more like app details on the App Store viewed on iPad, and perhaps match the aspect ratio in portrait either on iPad or iPhone as well if it finds use there. Such panels would reduce screen space for an element, for instance for long TOCs, but it is it worth it? Maybe.

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democrite Evangelist Posts: 441 Karma: 77256 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: none	It's something that I've thought about on and off over the years, but more recently since you Kris have provided places for people to offer feedback and are open to hearing it. If Apple long resisted larger screen sizes for iPhone and made a particular choice for its initial size, it is perhaps because certain parts of the UI are more easily accessible. On newer devices, the top toolbar perhaps remains difficult to use for some average hand size, or is at least more difficult than the bottom area, hence the older preference of bottom toolbars. If rumors are true, that may be also one of the reasons Apple is considering removing the home button. I saw Maps in iOS 10. The persistant swipeable bottom panel is pretty interesting. Initially, I might think it's better reserved for UIs where there is no other toolbar. I'm not sure if it has its place in Marvin but perhaps for something like search. As you've added a bottom right search icon to return to search results, have you considered a bar that also includes previous/next buttons? One could also swipe up to more easily access search results, though I'm not sure if that is a good idea considering search will possibly be later accessible through a top toolbar button. I was looking at various iOS readers and found this yesterday in Kobo: I think panels that are more easily dismissable than by clicking the top left, for instance Deep View and search on iPad, where one can tap anywhere outside the panel to hide, may have their use for other things. TOC and annotations? Maybe. The size of the panel could be a bit bigger, maybe a bit more like app details on the App Store viewed on iPad, and perhaps match the aspect ratio in portrait either on iPad or iPhone as well if it finds use there. Such panels would reduce screen space for an element, for instance for long TOCs, but it is it worth it? Maybe. Last edited by democrite; 07-02-2016 at 10:10 PM.