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Old 04-15-2016, 03:46 PM   #6
whismerhill
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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal View Post
O_o you check to see if the power is connected every time you click the convert button in calibre, or the fetch news button or the download metadata button, really? Are you serious?
no, because when you convert 1 or 20 file it doesn't matter, when you convert 200 files and you're gonna leave your desk, it matters more so yeah I'd check the power when I do a humongous batch job which requires a lot of processing time. Anyway I was just saying, it's not like it matters.

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal View Post
generally - really so when a user posses a laptop that does not obey this "general" principle of yours and he complains that calibre caused his laptop to die unexpectedly, you are going to deal with the bug reports?
That's what you call "unexpectedly" ? Strange word for an expected outcome.
That's like throwing a megui x264 conversion with an insane profile & then being surprised that you needed power to complete it?
Also in theory it's an non-issue since it would of course be optional, so the user did turn it on, his problem.

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal View Post
Right and windows control panel has a button to turn off sleep, what has that got to do with anything?
I was just giving examples that it exists in other software. Insomnia comes really handy sometimes look it up if you wish. (not gonna link, not sure of the rules for linking stuff out here)

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal View Post
Like when the laptop comes out of sleep...
that supposes that whatever was downloading wasn't needed when the user comes back to his computer. more efficient to have a download software which prevents sleep while downloading, which will prevent the computer from going to sleep, the download will complete, then the computer will go to sleep since the software will remove the "restriction". When the user comes back to his desk, the download is finished and he can continue whatever it was that he was doing.

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal View Post
You are comparing the active watching of a movie with running background tasks? What?
Yes, in both example cases the computer is left untouched for a little while assuming that you watch the movie without pauses or volume adjustments.In both examples, the computer is doing something that losely needs to be completed within a certain timeframe. In the case of the movie it's annoying to be interrupted from watching cause the computer goes to sleep, in the case of the background task it might be annoying to come back to your desk to find out your computer went to sleep within 15 minutes & the process is actually only @ 10% while you left the desk for 4 hours & it had the time to complete.



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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal View Post
And if you have a program that prevents it from going to sleep you lose all those benefits.
The beauty of having a program which handles sleep himself is precisely there.
e.g. When it's running tasks which are deemed by the user as "time critical" or whatever, then it will prevent sleep for as long as the task is running, as soon as the task is completed it will stop preventing sleep. Therefore you lost none of the advantages. (time critical = turn on option "prevent sleep while working" )

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal View Post
Putting a computer to sleep is a user's decision. It is not the job of applications to second guess his choice.
For sure, I never implied the app should prevent sleep always & without it being optional.

Anyways, in my humble opinion, you have a strange point of view, but that's your decision. I thought it was a good idea, but apparently it's not xD
Have a nice day.


PS: didn't even notice you were the main developer xD. let me thank you for making an awesome application, you probably heard it all before but still. And while saying that I'm not trying to rub it in to get the feature I suggested, because in all honesty I don't really need it, I just thought it would be a good idea as I said before.

again have a nice day.
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