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Originally Posted by Barns
Well, aplogies if my offence was misplaced.
However, I see an established member replying to a new member's first ever post by pretending not to know what scrolling means when referring to a website in an effort to ridicule the new member's choice of words as, if not exactly vitriolic, mean-spirited, at best. The other posters, yourself included, knew exactly what I meant.
Also, adding inverted commas to a word is a common form of sarcasm and to add it to one my words and quote it in his reply suggests that I had chosen a ridiculous, inappropriate term, whereas I was, in fact, merely trying to be polite for my first post on an established forum and not "bore" established members with lengthy descriptions of a mere noob's efforts to satisfy his minor, personal whim.
Anyway, I've obviously made myself persona non grata by espousing my opinions on the matter so I'll go and sit quietly in the corner and read my book...  |
You are right, there was some sarcasm involved. Most of my response was an honest question and suggestion. But, overall, gwynevans was right about the intention. And the quotes were me quoting your text exactly to ask my questions. My starting question was a toned down version of what I thought when I saw the title of the thread.
Your first response was to explain what scrolling is. Done in a way that made any possible sarcasm or "vitriol" in my reply seem minor. Thank you for the lesson in what scrolling is. Pity you didn't tell me what "proper scrolling" is. And yes, that was sarcasm.
Yes, you are right about what scrolling is. But, how it works depends on the application, the OS, the input device and your opinion on whether the viewport is moving over the document, or the document is moving. As a programmer I have written software to scroll and had to make the decisions about what to do when the arrow and page keys were pressed. It isn't always as obvious as you think.
Of course, scrolling a page or screen at a time fits the definition you posted.
From your response, "proper scrolling" seems to be using the mouse wheel. But, you are asking about an iOS app. Are you connecting a mouse to your iPad? If so, that is very unusual. Most people seem to want to use the touch screen facilities. But, OK. What sort of mouse wheel? Does it have "notches" or scrolls freely? Each of these affect how scrolling works. How many people set the scroll wheel to scroll a page at a time? Or several lines rather than one.
Your response said that you explained what you wanted by referencing KyBook. But you didn't. You gave an example of what you didn't want. And even then, it isn't completely clear.
You also keep telling me that it's the way web site scroll. As I said, and this is were the only bit of sarcasm was, I don't didn't know that web sites scrolled, but I do know how most web pages scroll. And yes, there are web pages that are designed to scroll a screen at a time.
What you should have accused me of was being obtuse. And I was. Deliberately so. I spend my days creating software (designing, coding, testing). Or fixing bugs in it. I answer questions here about how ereaders work, or my plugins. Or other things I think I know something about. When someone has a problem and states the problem badly, I have to spend time clearing that up. Frequently, it's just not enough information was supplied. Other times it the use of a term that is different depending on the context. Your question was about "proper scrolling" is in the context of reading apps. And as you have discovered, most reading apps seem to think "proper scrolling" is page scrolling. Your reference to scrolling in "web sites" might have cleared this up, but you are also mixing contexts there, so that didn't necessarily help.
And I was serious about listing the apps you had tested. You explicitly mentioned four. Your statement suggested that you had tested a lot more. If you had listed them, that means we know what is not and don't make the mistake of suggesting it. After all, you had gone to the trouble of finding out which were no good, so share the knowledge. And that is what you expected someone here to do.