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Old 02-29-2016, 10:26 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by knc1 View Post
Even if they had, they could not post it here due to site guidelines about posting copyrighted material.

You can discuss what needs to be done here -
You could post a script that accomplishes what needs to be done here -
But the Amazon update file, in whole or in part, is Amazon's property.
I strongly disagree.

The update file has been made public by offering it on the download site I mentioned. Downloading the file is in no way "attached" to the process of agreeing to any type of legal agreement - which would have no legal binding in most parts of the world (eg. everywhere except the US, and even there the legality of "I agree"-clicks is a hot topic of legal discussion) anyways.

Now, there's this file offered for download by Amazon. It can be un-archived by publicly available means which have apparently not been challenged by the only process that would come to mind - DMCA (again, a legal process which would only be interesting for anyone within the US). The file contains human readable scripts - which doesn't even make disassembling necessary - which I doubt itself would be illegal by any suppressing means even* in the US.

In conclusion: We are discussing the openly available contents of an archive which has, for all I and everyone else can see, be made publicly available and which has no (again, for most parts of the world not legally binding) Copyright notice attached to it. Neither the re-assembled nor the original update file are claimed to be copyrighted by anyone discussing it's contents, nor would anyone of us claim such a copyright (which, for most legal systems in the world, is very much more fine grained then US copyright laws) for that file.

The device to which the update file is later uploaded is fully owned by the person who is interested in the file - please keep in mind that "bought by me, still owned by the producer/maker" is a concept which only the US and a few dictatorial regimes in Africa and the Far East know (not allegorically meant). For Europe - we bought it, we own it, we can do whatever we like with a device.

Why on earth do you assume dissecting the beforementioned archive and re-assembling parts of or discussing such an action it in any way touches Amazons property or intellectual property rights?
It does not.

(*) as in "the originating country", as the legal and practical target area for at least the file I linked ("...Europe...") is undoubtedly outside of the US.
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