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Old 12-26-2015, 06:43 PM   #26933
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FWIW:

I have the Thinkpad Yoga. I don't know how well its specs fit with your needs, but I admit, of all the (myriad) laptops/tablets I tried, for about 2 years, I like it best.

FWIW.
Thanks I've been looking at the T450. I've added some pictures of the Dell E6500 and the Lenovo T410. They almost seem like carbon copies; the T400 is bit older than the E6500, the T410 is a bit newer. It's almost as if Dell thought: hey, let's take a Thinkpad and make it look sleeker and shinier

I happen to like the layout of the keyboard and the construction of these computers.

Now, when looking at the T450, I immediately see some things right off the bat that I don't like:

- No buttons for the touchpad... do I now need to use gestures, or the Trackpoint buttons? (I understand the T440 went Apple-style without any buttons at all :X)
- F1-F12 are now secondary functions. If I decide to get the T450, I *hope* I can reverse the FN-functionality in the BIOS. I *NEED* my fricking function keys to work *without* having to press FN.
- They swapped CTRL and FN. WHY?! Now I will forever hit the wrong button! (Unless this can be swapped as well, in the BIOS, but then the labels don't fit...)
- Print Screen right beside the Right ALT, instead of CTRL? WTF?!
- They went jacking around with the home/end/pgup/pgdn/delete buttons again...

I wonder why manufacturers always feel the need to jackass with the keyboard layout. Just create a layout that is as close as possible to the traditional desktop layout, just as on the old Thinkpads, and the E6500 and leave it at that...

Still, I can accommodate to almost every keyboard layout within a few days. I'll have to download the user manual to see if there is a BIOS-setting to reverse the FN-key functionality. If this can't be done, I'm not going to get a T450. Maybe I'm not going to get a new notebook at all.
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