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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy
By the way, I don't consider Baen as a traditional publisher because they are specialized.
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Would you not consider Tor or Harlequin to be traditional publishers for the same reason? All the "Big 5" have specialist imprints, whether it be SF, mystery, romance, or whatever.
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How many self-published books have you actually tried?
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A fair number, and there are certainly some very good ones out there.