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Old 11-16-2015, 09:32 PM   #141
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Originally Posted by notimp View Post
What counterpoints am I missing?

I'm reversing your argument - when I am saying that people in here just want to look at a problem from a "the mountain tops we have conquered" perspective, announcing that everything old (format wise) is still fine, because this allows them to still proclaim some sort of structural integrity, that simply ignores all recent and future developments on the sector, as long as those are still honored. Because they are set in their ways, they dont want to learn anything new, and they dont care about what I describe as "impact on ebook culture".

If you stop caring about recent developments, you probably wont stay relevant for long. The ecosystem is changing. Your positions are not.

Convincing enough?

As for the cultural impact - I wont draw detailed scenarios if I dont have to here. The answer here really is as simple as "do you see value in people still being allowed to create "current feature" books aside from the industry monopoly that now is the only entity that can". I have hinted at impacts from a societal and a historical perspective - but thats it. If you dont see the need to follow this argument - dont. Predictions are hard.

Also - you arent impartial in this line of discussion, never have been, so dont try to get ownership over what is a convincing argument and what is not. People who read our exchanges will decide that.

As for the statements vs reasons play you chose to open up - there are very few "i believe that" statements I make in my posts, the majority of time Im going through facts, examples, and my reasoning behind them. So much so - that you now see it fit to attack me an grounds of repeating myself. (Shortly after I have cultivated the notion of repetition as a rhetorical tool because some indisputable facts seemingly havent sunk in yet, because people chose not to talk about them, when they still were news.)

Thats a breath of fresh air from previous "tl;dr" standpoints promoted by some in here. At least people are reading.

Now I'm going to go through every previous posting since the last time I visited, with a comb, to see what counterpoints I could have missed. "The old model still works - so "who cares" (in the words of the eloquent speaker before me)" still somewhat upholds.

I wont argue against it holding some truth. Never have.
I haven't responded to your posts for some time. This is because I and others have responded to those of your points that we have been able to extract from your "stream of consciousness" postings and you have ignored these responses, choosing instead to repeat your opinions again and again. You even ignored my direct questions to you in an earlier post. Personally, to paraphrase another poster, I disagree with just about every aspect of your posts, the only exception I can think of being that neither of us thinks the .kfx format is a desirable thing and we both see the potential for future problems, though you seem to believe the problems are both immediate and certain.

As I see things, the points that you have raised have been dealt with by counter-arguments to which you have failed to respond, unless you regard repeating those points ad infinitum without engaging as a response. The whole point of these types of discussions is to engage and have a hopefully civilized discussion of the issues concerned. If I want to hear preaching, I can go to a Church! If you want to keep posting please engage and defend or concede your position rather than just repeating it.
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