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Old 10-08-2015, 12:04 AM   #31
eschwartz
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Well then.
There's our problem.

If you are going to talk about two different things, you need to make it clear which one you are talking about at any given time -- these abrupt changes in topic are not exactly conducive to a sane discussion.

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I have already had Kindle books that worked for years on previous generation Kindle devices that when I tried to download them to a Paperwhite the book would not work on it even though it was a Kindle book. I got a refund from Amazon, but the experience taught me that obsolescence can come to any closed, drm-protected format. That was both a locked down, drm protected ebook, and within Amazon's closed system. If I had taken extensive notes, annotations, and highlights with that ebook--those would have been gone.
Now that is interesting, because I can't say I've really heard of Amazon deleting peoples' books for no reason (or any reason at all, aside for that one incident with the illegally-submitted book).

But let's be honest. The problem you mention has absolutely nothing to do with Amazon, and everything to do with "ebookstore".
Are you seriously suggesting that Amazon's closed system, moreso than every other ebookstore out there, which are all just as much of a closed system, will swallow up peoples' annotations?

You must be suggesting it -- since you seem to be tying Amazon's not-the-EPUB-"standard" format to their "closed" system (as though there were such thing as an open one to compare it to) and coming out with "Amazon is unusually dangerous".

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You mention Calibre is open source, and that is why you are not afraid of it going away. I could say that is the same reason I like Epub and drm-free ebooks.
You are comparing Apples to oranges.

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You assume that everyone can just use Calibre to set their ebooks free. I assume the average reader is not going to do that, not take the time to learn how to do that, or be afraid of breaking a law to do it.

For the technically inclined, you are right. But your average person who is not on this Forum, and is using a closed system with closed file formats that are drm-protected and will have serious issues when their supplier of choice goes under, and the way things are going, Amazon will probably be the last man standing, and as I just pointed out, even with Amazon it is no guarantee your ebooks will not become obsolete in a few years when they change devices and software.
As DiapDealer said, the unusual person who cares one way or the other, will most likely already be dealing with the problem.


And once again I call foul over your claim that Amazon is "disappearing" your books.
I may be misjudging you, sorry -- but I really haven't heard of this ever happening before. Ever.

Until just around now, actually. Now two people are claiming the same thing. Here's the other guy: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=3183085


Anyway -- I want to know why no one else has ever heard of this phenomenon in the past.
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