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Old 09-19-2015, 08:32 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
As far as I know, the only dual-mobi that is created by Calibre is the AZW3. The "mobi" is KF7, which has no KF7 features, nor font embedding, etc. Only the KF8 "mobi" (in Calibre-speak, the AZW3) has the 3 internal files--the source, the KF7 and the KF8. That's why the "mobi" file generated by Calibre will upload at Amazon (KF7) and the AZW3 won't; because the formatting is simpler, and less likely to incur issues. Above and beyond the format incompatibility, that is. Now, as I said previously--NOT a Calibre expert, but that's been my understanding. So, from the get-go, I'm not clear on what you're doing, because what you're saying is not in agreement with my understanding. I thought that the AZW3 is the KF8, with the multiple-files inisde the MOBI and the KF8 features; and the MOBI is simply essentially a PRC file. No?
Calibre offers an option when to generate a "dual" mobi, with the mobi extension. From the Calibre tooltip:

By default calibre generates MOBI files that contain the old MOBI 6 format. This format is compatible with all devices. However, by changing this setting, you can tell calibre to generate MOBI files that contain both MOBI 6 and the new KF8 format, or only the new KF8 format. KF8 has more features than MOBI 6, but only works with newer Kindles.

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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
Sorry, which "cloud?" You mean, the storage for your Kindle account, as though it's a document? So, you're using the Amazon email system, sending it out as a DOC (this is how the Amazon system sees it--as a personal doc, not a book), and then you're downloading it either via USB or..? I don't believe that you're getting a KF8 mobi.
I mean Amazon's whispersync - my files are uploaded as personal documents. Then I use the "cloud" option on the Kindle, and it downloads an azw3 file. It's true, I guarantee. You can easily replicate this behavior using calibre and a new-ish Kindle.

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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
Well, don't see how that can be, either, because KF7 can't/doesn't carry font information. Can't embed fonts, for MOBI/KF7. Did you try to call a particular font, from the CSS/HTML, that is already on the Voyage? Or...? Can you give us a screenshot of the font-enabled MOBI (KF7 mobi) that you're loading to the Voyage that's retaining fonts?
I didn't make myself clear: I'm not embedding any fonts, just formatting some paragraphs using a monospaced font, using the font-family:"courier"; property.

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The KDP frequently, especially since April, strips fonts. It's a known issue. Amazon opened Pandora's box when they enabled fonts through KF8 in the first place, and they've been dialing it back ever since. It's not really byzantine; but it's hard to keep up with if you don't do it every day.
It really is byzantine, and I work for the government, so that's saying something

Come on html => calibre_epub => kindlegen => send_to_kindle works; html => kindlegen => send_to_kindle doesn't. Kafka would be proud.
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