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Originally Posted by darryl
Impresseive exercise in mental gymnastics. It seems that you are flaying about seeking some rationale to justify your conclusion. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings but this attempt hasn't got you there. Not even close. In the end you have seized upon a totally irrelevant distinction, being whether the group itself invented the label!
Sorry. Back to the drawing board, I guess.
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You're saying that when it comes to labels, context doesn't matter. That may be true when the person using the label, and the recipients don't have context (i.e., knowledge about the original of the labels, who self-identifies with the labels, whether it's used primary by one side as a form of derision, and not used at all by the group tagged with the label), but when context is well known between the user and the recipients, all of that context is going to be used. As such, if I see a comment like "SJWs always lie", knowing the context that SJW was a label primarily attached to a group by another group as a form of derision, it's generally not used by the group referred to for self-identification, I'm going to draw the conclusion that the commenter is a hater. If the comment is somewhat neutral or positive, I'd maybe draw a different conclusion, for example based on other comments from that person.