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Originally Posted by dickloraine
That would mean, buying the puppies narrative of a secret sect controlling the awards. I don't buy it. It is not an "entrenched orthodoxy", but most of society. Like in your Modesitt quote:
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This doesn't follow at all. An "entrenched orthodoxy" can exist in a group which neither reflects wider society nor constitutes a conspiracy. Conspiracy theories abound but are rarely true. Why do we need a conspiracy when the behaviour concerned can be explained simply in terms of human nature. The herd instinct, the desire to be liked and accepted, to be part of something. To be on the winning side. And of course simple self-interest. Particularly where relatively closed groups are involved. No secret sect needed.
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Originally Posted by dickloraine
People do simply this. No conspiracy, just a silent majority. Of course extrems exist, like in this article, but that is not who or why books were awarded. Puppies seem to just put anybody under the SWJ label who disagrees with them. But on the other hand, bad puppies don't want to be associated with rabbid puppies, which is done on the other side.
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As I said before, both groups are guilty of using labels against the other side. And the books were awarded (or not) because sufficient members of the group voted for them. I don't think anyone can know their reasons for voting the way they did.
Modesitt's articles are probably not far from the truth. Let's face it. Both groups have behaved like spoilt children.