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Old 09-04-2015, 05:25 AM   #184
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Originally Posted by tompe View Post
But in both example you are using the meaning of the words.
I accept that my example is not perfect. Literary fiction is rarely so lacking subtlety that quoting a single paragraph will give it away. If you take a look at that Wikipedia link you will see comments like:
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One of the early critics of the Melville Revival, British author E.M. Forster, remarked in 1927: "Moby-Dick is full of meanings: its meaning is a different problem."[16] Yet he saw as "the essential" in the book "its prophetic song," which flows "like an undercurrent" beneath the surface action and morality.
From what I've read of Melville, much of what is said of his work is in response to a deliberate attempt at literary allusion by the author; things he was trying to say without saying them directly. This, for me, marks the work as a literary one.

Generally I prefer such meaning in books to be less obtuse. It's one of the reasons why I like Pratchett's work, especially once you get well into the Discword series. Each book contains a great story with mystery and drama, and each carries Pratchett's humour in what he sees in the world (the Discworld and this one) - and these remain the focus - but not far beneath that are more serious statements of morality. In some respects I see him a little like Charles Dickens in this way. And, like Dickens, all these things are elements of the story he is telling; they aren't hidden messages for which the story is just a construct to hide them, they are an integral part of the story.
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