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Originally Posted by MikeB1972
As an aside I had a ... err ... discussion with an SJW type that, as they are trying to be inclusive of all viewpoints then they have to accept racism as a valid viewpoint and, infact, a cultural point of view with longstanding traditions.
They starting shouting abuse at me quite quickly, even with me arguing against racism, some people are never happy 
I sometimes suspect I may have a slight masochistic streak in me somewhere.
More on topic, the SJW types talking about how Sci-Fi should be including more diversity of writers and characters do seem to be missing the point that it always has, and one of the consequences of speculating about future/alternate worlds is that some of them are going to be far less diverse than now.
If anyone mentions Leckie's Ancillary Trilogy as an example of diversity, flip it around on them and ask them why they support slavery, a totalitarian regime and a very rigid class structure  |
To many people today, tolerance is only for certain ideas and religions.
More annoying, though, is that it isn't just ideas and viewpoints they want to eliminate, but also actual verifiable facts.
At core it's not about ideas but about power: their power to enforce their orthodoxy by defining what is open to debate or even consideration. Best solution is to deny them the power to define the terms of debate. Refusing to submit to their bullying.
SF&F is about exploring other worlds and times; allowing it to be constrained by the PC mundane world kinda defeats the whole purpose.