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Old 08-26-2015, 10:09 PM   #104
SteveEisenberg
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Originally Posted by eschwartz View Post
So... who are you to question someone else's moral judgment?
I think the answer is clear. Steve Eisenberg.

Who are you to question my moral judgments? I think we both agree on this. E. Schwartz!

Obviously I missed the point.

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Civil disobedience is the kind of thing where one breaks the law, in order to raise public awareness of your (and usually numerous others') belief that the law is wrong.
That's one kind of civil disobedience. I'd say that people in northeastern China who selflessly harbor those fleeing North Korea, in silent defiance of police searches, are engaging in civil disobedience despite zero attempt to raise public awareness.

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Originally Posted by AnotherCat View Post
I am glad that my 87 years old mother, who uses a PC but has no real idea of the internet or copyright on digital media, lives in a society where she will not be regarded as a thief or as being civilly disobedient should she download an eBook she innocently finds as "being free" on some website.
I have experience with this. People of similar age, who download having "no real idea of the internet," quickly have a PC virtually unusable due to adware and worse. (I'm sure it's also true of younger people -- I'm just relating personal experience.)

By the way, being regarded as civilly disobedient is a good thing!

In the real world, most people have stolen things. I didn't mean to imply that stealing a limited number of times makes your identity that of a thief. And, as I hope I explained two paragraphs up, you can't inadvertently steal on the internet many times without being penalized by the cost of a PC
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