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Old 08-25-2015, 03:59 AM   #69
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Originally Posted by Rbneader View Post
Speaking as someone who has tried to read the Puppy authors, voting 'No Award' when presented with a slate of them is the most rational response.

It's great that many different kinds of authors can make a living writing many different kinds of things. But are all of them Hugo worthy? No. The authors that were nominated from a politically-driven slate were of a lower quality and it showed. If you look around, most of the people who attempted honest reviews are saying similar things.

Just because someone loves a book doesn't mean it's the greatest thing in sci-fi for that year. Some people obviously have trouble dealing with the idea that not everyone likes what they like (see also: GamersGate) and occasionally those people get together and throw a fit.

The genuine concerns about Hugo legitimacy - which come up every so often and have been addressed repeatedly - were totally drowned out by a bunch of whining. The whining got a bunch of bad writing nominated, and Hugo voters soundly rejected both the bad writing and the rationale behind nominating it. It would be great to have an actual adult conversation about the nature of popularity contests, but that's not what the Puppies want and it's not what they pushed for.
I'm a little bit surprised by your post, because you eluded my point and you made me have a look at GamersGate for no apparent reason. I wasn't able to draw any link whatsoever, so what are you talking about?
Keywords I found were: "journalism", "misogyny", "anti-feminism". I even stumbled upon a Volokh article (interesting read).

In the best of light, I am supposing "Some people obviously have trouble dealing with the idea that not everyone likes what they like" means that ugly fights oppose extremist people who all wrongly think their views are popular, but that goes against your description of both camps: bunch of whinings vs adult rational Hugo voters. You seem slanted against the puppies, so am I to deduce you are slanted aswell in regards to GamersGate?
That would be ironic because I am unable to deduce it, as if you were expecting your slant to be mine aswell.
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