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Old 08-18-2015, 12:13 AM   #50
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Originally Posted by ottdmk View Post
For clarification, my order of preference when it comes to DRM schemes, from 1 to 100:

1) No DRM. DRM doesn't work, never has.
20) Social DRM like Pottermore's or DriveThruRPG's watermarking. While annoying, at least it doesn't actively interfere with how I use my purchase.
80) Adobe DRM. Still lousy for all the usual reasons, but at least if a great device comes out and licenses it, my library can transfer with a minimum of fuss.
100) Single vendor DRM such as Amazon's.

Adobe DRM at least allows for other companies to compete with Kobo directly with library compatibility. Still not good, but it's better then the Amazon situation where no company can advertise "Read your Amazon library on this device!" without being Amazon.
And I have already corrected your misapprehension about Amazon in my reply to JSWolf, but it bears repeating:

Amazon has offered to license out their DRM scheme. No one decided to take them up on that offer.

Having it in for AmazonBooks because, through no fault of their own, you can only read the books-for-which-publishers-demand-DRM on one brand of devices, whereas KoboBooks can be read on two or three brands of devices, again through no fault of their own, is ridiculous.

And you are assuming a "great device" will license Adobe DRM, rather than nothing at all. Or even (gasp) Amazon DRM! (I will concede that the odds are against Amazon DRM.)



Myself, I don't consider Adobe DRM to be one iota better than Amazon DRM. In order for my books to be properly accessible, they cannot have an DRM at all, and at that point it doesn't really matter what DRM scheme, if any, a specific device uses.

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Now as for Amazon and the Voyage: never heard of the Canadian patent issue before. The goodereader article was interesting, and I thank Michael for the link to the actual patent. Pity his conclusions were wrong.

Amazon started the patent process in 2010 and finished the preliminary steps in 2011. However, as shown in this CIPO tutorial, you have to kick off the approval of your application by applying for examination. You have to do this within five years of filing. Amazon waited three years, four months and eleven days from the last step they completed, or, put another way, five years minus 20 days of their original filing. Yeah, the Canadian market is a *real* priority for Amazon.
I am completely, utterly, totally shocked that Amazon does not consider Canada to be of exactly equal importance to the US!!!




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I am still wondering why the Canadian government has taken the better part of a year and still not approved it, after Amazon did everything necessary on your end.

You are acting as though there were anyone not aware that Amazon requested approval on Jan 2015, rather than in 2010.

Yes, we know Amazon waited 3 months after the successful US launch to jumpstart the approval for a Canada launch. We know Canada is of lesser priority to Amazon than the US. We know Amazon is entirely totally responsible for the Voyage not being available back in October, or even January.

The only point anyone (other than you, I guess) was trying to make is... if you are wondering why it still isn't available halfway through August of next year, it's because Amazon finished their patent application 8 months ago and still hasn't gotten an answer.


I think I know why you are so confused. You didn't read the article.
If you had read the article, you would know it wasn't from Michael at Goodereader, it was from Nathan at The Ebook Reader.
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