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Originally Posted by pwalker8
Or are you going to play the "They didn't use these exact words" card? 
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Not at all. I'm simply going to point out that not a one of those quotes you posted even
hints (let alone exactly states) that traditional publishers provide "no value." In fact, at least one of them recognized/mentioned a valuable service that they DO provide.
What all of them DO suggest (which you seem unwilling to accept/admit) is that they question whether the value traditional publishers DO provide (and everyone here recognizes that they do provide some--regardless of what your reality wants to believe we're saying) is worth the traditional asking price anymore.
I don't know how much simpler I can make it for you. You're arguing with people who aren't saying what you seem to need them to be saying.
The future is not tradpub OR indie; black or white. The future is a hybrid of both--BECAUSE of the choices indie success is providing today. Regardless of "tiers."