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Old 08-15-2015, 06:27 PM   #32
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Device: iPad 1/2/Air, K3/PW2/Fire1, Kobo Touch, Samsung Tab, Nook Color/Touch
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Originally Posted by fxp33 View Post
Hi,

Just awakening this thread with some updates (using Paperwhite generation 6, software 5.6.5)

Pop-up footnotes work great! See at the bottom for testing files.

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Hope this helps.

Regards

François
Hey, great to have another researcher on the Kindle pop-up notes! I definitely think that this is something that could be more precisely codified (there's a couple of threads hanging around on MobileRead but they are a bit confusing IMO).

I don't use Calibre and all that stuff, so I downloaded your ePub and ran it through KindleGen. I loaded the fire on a PW2, K3, K1 and Fire1.

The pop-up notes worked fine on the PW2. On the other Kindles, they acted as normal hyperlinks.

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AZW3
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  • back button in upper menu doesn't come back to text!! BUG(?)
You mean the back button in the software menu, right? I didn't run into this on the K1/K3/Fire1, so I'm wondering what device you tried this on.

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MOBI
What device did you try your "mobi" on? I can't think that you mean a legitimate KF7; I'm guessing that Calibre can output with a "mobi" or an "azw3" extension, but that in either case it's a compound KF7/KF8. So which one you were viewing would depend on the device. Heck, if pop-up notes are working on K1 and DX and stuff, great! But I didn't find this to be the case.

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-I believe the important part is the epub:type="noteref", indicating that the viewer has to use the link in a specific way instead of just going to the target text.
Hm, I actually doubt that the epub:type="noteref" attribute has anything to do with the pop-up notes. That's specifically for epubs, and Amazon's file formats are not likely to follow those specs.

From what I recall from earlier MobileRead threads, the way it works is that the Kindle software analyzes your target location. If there's a certain markup structure at the target location (paragraph that contains a hyperlink that points back at where you are now, basically) it will take that paragraph and display it in a popup box. That's why footnotes that themselves contain hyperlinks do not work; for some reason they don't match the pattern that the Kindle is looking for.

I would love to be proven wrong on this; I did mess around with it earlier, trying to get it to create the popup box without the requisite back-link, but to no avail. You may want to experiment removing the noteref attrib vs. removing your back-link (or shifting your markup) and see what happens.
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