that works, thanks again
btw just needed to remove a space between .inner HTML for it to work, and looks like the two numerical values need to be the same for the first printed number to be 1, eg the following makes page 4 show as 1
Code:
<p id="pagenum" style="text-align:center;"></p><script>document.getElementById("pagenum").innerHTML = (_PAGENUM_ > 3) ? ("" + (_PAGENUM_ - 3)) : ""</script>
and noworries about the roman numerals, youve been a great help already