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Old 07-06-2015, 01:39 PM   #8
chaley
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Originally Posted by nqk View Post
Dear @chaley,

, maybe my English is not good enough to express what I wanted to say or what I saw. So I made two screenshots, hoping they can be more meaningful.
Your English is excellent. And I think I did understand what you want.
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Very often, when I open CC (I'm testing so I do open it a lot - Calibre main program too), this happens and I have to wait. I'm sure the changes made in Calibre database is trivial - nothing special, one or two words in comment field of a book.

I think it is not convenient, as a user.
http://i.imgur.com/kNoVqqZ.png
The problem is that this forces the user to remember what they did and whether it was an "important" change, where important is defined by what they are doing. If someone doesn't update the database, downloads a book and then discovers that the downloaded metadata is wrong, that user will not be happy and will blame CC. The same thing is true if the user cannot download a book or a cover because they made a minor one-character change in an author's name that renames the folders, making the book path in the non-downloaded database wrong.

I am considering adding an option where CC will tell you that the local database is incorrect and allow you to skip the download. That way the user must proactively ignore the download. I am not yet convinced that this change is worth the added complexity because the user must still remember what they did and not ignore the download when they shouldn't.
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My search is also quite simple, nothing fancy. Just one word "Marple" and the process looks like this
http://i.imgur.com/rDkXtAb.png
What columns should CC look into for the word "Marple"? Title? Authors? Series? Author_sort? Comments? Tags? Custom columns? If the answer is "all of the above" then significant improvements are probably not possible at reasonable cost. If the answer is "title", "author", "series"; and if no calibre-like syntax is allowed (only simple words. no parentheses, no column indicators, no "and" "or" and "not") then I might be able to do something. I would need to do "it" for both base CC and the cloud connection.
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I'm not at a position to comment on how technical things should be made, just mere user experience. .
This isn't a technical discussion except to the extent that something is or is not implementable with reasonable effort. It is really a discussion about whether searches should work like CC and calibre searches (good for the user because they are consistent), and what kinds of searches are really necessary given the hierarchy.

It is true that the hierarchy does not help much with searches like "find me titles containing X". The hierarchy does deal with "find me books in series X" or "find me books by author X". Your search term sounds like a series. I guess I am asking: why did you choose to search instead of using the hierarchy?
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I will try Box, too. But I have problem with Box before because Box tended to keep a copy of the modified files (folders) which make the whole set of database bigger than needed.
Thanks for trying box. We are definitely having a mixed experience. I cannot make it fail and another user cannot make it work.
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