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Old 06-12-2015, 01:47 AM   #36
davidfor
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos
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Originally Posted by fastrobot View Post
Well, yes, I suppose that's technically correct. But that doesn't make what I said weird.
The last time I checked, FredMeyers is not a competitor to Kobo -- it's a grocery store.
And it would be pretty stupid to offer a wireless hotspot for customers of the DELI -- so that they can "Browse" the web while eating lunch, if you're going to block HTML text files.
Nobody can browse the web without at least plain text files being permitted.
So -- even though they 'could' block kobo, specifically, I seroiusly doubt that's what I am encountering.
Yes, I was nitpicking. But, your statement was something like "a firewall lets text through". It was just such a bad statement that I couldn't leave it alone. What I did forget to say is that I'd be surprised if these places are blocking zip files and not blocking epubs. It is much more likely that they blocked everything and then let a few things through. Or, more likely, the device/firewall was configured that way when they bought it.

Personally, I suspect the problem is size. The free hotspots I have used limit the length of time or total downloads of a session. The one I can remember had 50MB a day. That's to small for any of the Kobo firmware versions.

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I don't have a PC. Kobo's desktop software doesn't run on Linux, so I don't plug the cable in. I can only do a wireless setup, or none at all.
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I said nothing about Kobo's desktop software. If I delete the firmware update files, I am definitely not starting the application. I am connecting to the device as a MSD and accessing it's file system and deleting files. I think that's something that Linux is perfectly capable of.
I agree; for that's basically what happened after I had been using the Kobo for a while and the firmware went out of date. 75% through the "sync", I would get a message saying "Network error". I could cancel it, I could restart the kobo -- but nothing would allow it to complete a 'sync' while a firewall was present and the firmware not updated.

If the firmware was updated, though -- I was able to download books even with the firewall present and compete a sync. My conclusion -- the firmware being out of date affects the sync process and can prevent updating of a kobo reader, and re-downloading of books from the Kobo store.
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Yes, that is correct. The first step of a sync is to check for new firmware. That will be downloaded. The sync won't happen until the firmware is installed. You can connect to a PC and remove the files to prevent the install, but the same thing will happen the next time you sync.
Excuse me? You got your glo to set up without upgrading the firmware ?
Using only wireless setup ??? I'd like to see a video of that, show me the firmware update fail after a factory reset -- and you still be able to log into the store and download all your DRM protected books (not just the free ones). I'd like to know the revision number of the Glo, for I'll find and buy that one. I've tried EVERYTHING to make that happen, and it didn't work. I started out with a Kobo Touch, then upgraded to a Glo and Aura, and my experience is that they will allow you to cancel and go back a step during initial setup -- but I've never seen it allow you to actually log in and use the reader with the Kobo store, download and read books, until after the initial updates succeeded. It automatically restarts, or else you have to go back a step -- in either event, it either reboots and tries to update again, or you can't make any progress because you never complete the final step.

Are you using a trick, by deleting the update files or something, to make it let you log in?
Yes, I got to do a setup over WiFi after a factory reset without the firmware being updated. How or why, I don't know. I was surprised when it happened. I was able to login and it downloaded the usual five books and all the details of the others during the setup. I was then able to use the device to read and do a couple of checks with no problems. But, when I did a sync, it downloaded and installed the firmware that it missed during the setup.
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Again, there's no PC to connect to. You're cheating if you use the PC.
Where did I say I used a PC? I said I had the option to back out to the step where I could choose that option. Whether I did on one occasion or not, was dependent on exactly what I was doing at the time.

Of course, if I wanted to cheat, I would use the PC. I'd connect to the PC and copy the latest firmware files onto the device. When I disconnected, it would do the update. Once it finished, it should be prompting to do the setup. Doing that over the WiFi should work as when the firmware version check was done, it would find that it was already at the latest and not have to download anything. And of course, none of that needs the Kobo desktop software.
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