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I've just read the 2011 report, since you made me, but I don't see the problem?
I might have comprehension handicap, since it's not my world at all, but it reads consistent with his 2015 recollection (sorry to say).
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Let's see. Right after the event, he raved about how much fun he and Brad had there, and Brad chimed in to agree. Four years later, somehow that same event - the Reno WorldCon in 2011 - was a nightmarish hellscape for both of them.
Either they both lied about their experiences in 2011, or Larry's doing so now. Difference is, Larry's playing to a rabid audience now, trying to motivate them to Get Out The Vote and Destroy All Hugos. Horror stories about Poor Widdle Larry's Horrible Experience do that quite nicely. The 2015 post is red meat for his base.
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Originally Posted by Doonge
Would Correia openly bash the WorldCon after his first visit?
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If his 2015 version of events is correct, why WOULDN'T he? Remember, in 2015 he says that was when he decided to go all outspoken. If that was such a critical moment, why give such a good review?
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Should he have then mentionned the (maybe non existing) people that berated him at his FIRST WorldCon? I don't think I would have, but I'm no writer. Would you?
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If I'd had that bad a time, I would've either said so or kept my mouth shut on the whole subject. I damn sure wouldn't have written a glowing review of the experience, complete with happy photos.
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You see, even if he was really berated and badly treated by some (it is not actually one of his claims that has my interest, maybe yours, but not mine), it would not necessarily make his overall experience a bad one. He mentionned he met awesome people, and awesome people do turn the tides. They bring hope, motivation and comfort.
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Except you can't have it both ways. Either the overall experience was cool, like he said at the time, or it was a nightmare, like he says now. At least one of the posts is false. Larry's lying.
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For me, the important get away is that the Hugo are a popularity contest, and that those are to be gamed by cliques. I don't think the Sad Puppies thing is a good thing per se, but it does seem honest to me (it's a straightforward clique).
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Whereas for me, the important thing is that Larry started Sad Puppies based on his
unsubstantiated allegation that there's a Seekrit Librul Cabal rigging the most prestigious award in science fiction, and not only is he willing to burn the village to "save" it, but he's willing to do anything and partner with anyone to trash the award.
Please understand, when I first met him, I thought he was a decent guy. We got along, he sent me galleys of his next book, things were great. It took a lot of work to destroy all of that good will, but he got it done. I mean, when someone tells me to my face that they didn't bother responding to my actual point because they "knew" what I
really meant, I start to lose faith in their integrity. When they proceed to jump straight to Glenn Beck-style conspiracy theories about shadowy cabals pulling strings, I start to lose confidence in their ability to reason.
At this point, I'd double-check if he told me the sky was blue. He's gone all the way from "cool guy" to "I think I'll skip my regular January con because he's going to be there and I don't want to chance running into him." (And that's out of disgust, not fear. Just to be clear.)