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Old 04-05-2015, 12:35 PM   #224
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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
Mists' big "no-no" is the incest between Morgana and Arthur, which is clearly part of Arthurian legend since the dawn. Sure, if you want a kid to watch the animated SITS, they won't get that bit. But any other version? It's there, no matter how "glossed over." The big problem with Mists is that it's quite feminist, really.

And it's so glossed-over as to be non-existent, really. Did I like that idea that the Queen riders didn't get a choice of "husbands?" not really. But did it intrigue me? That a woman would choose to put her Weyr first? It was an interesting idea to me, as a youngster. I also read GWTW the summer I was 12, to be 13 that Fall. Did I think that Rhett should have raped his wife? Wait, let me think...

Oh, YES. Sorry, but Narnia's violence way outpaces Pern, by a massive factor. Pern has no war, and you can't say that about Narnia. Aslan is killed, if you'll recall, and if you think that a youngish reader won't be upset about THAT, you're wrong. His subsequent christ-like resurrection aside, it's violent. So are the wars. Pern? On Pern, they chase Thread, and dragons and riders are injured, by and large. You can't compare the two, for "violence." So, again, it sounds to me like we're talking about SEX as the big bugaboo, in terms of propriety.

And I have no idea how this is pertinent in a discussion about an app that replaces word A with word B. That app wouldn't do scat about the violence in Narnia, or the topic of choice at Pern.

I'd put in a big spiel, here, about why on earth anyone's religious beliefs were brought into this discussion--after all, sorry, but the other word for "scat" has nothing to do with whether one is Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Christian, or Wiccan--but I've decided it's not worth it.

Hitch
My standards of appropriate are based on how detailed and graphic content is, because that's what I've seen bother kids. Something that's explained at a high enough level can be appropriate for anyone.

"Arthur slept with his sister, yuck!" works for most elementary school kids, details of the sex does not. I can't remember exactly what the problem with Mists was - it was a long time ago - but I suspect it was something like that.

There are certainly kids who could be upset by the Narnia series. I simply didn't run into any that I remember. I put that down to the way Narnia books gloss over potentially troubling scenes. Like the Hobbit - the Hobbit is a story of failure, torture, death and woe, but troubling details are elided (a particularly egregious example is the 5 Armies' 'and then Bilbo got hit and slept through it all'). Structuring tales that way lets kids grapple with higher level concepts without being bogged down with details they aren't ready for yet.

You and JSWolf are the only ones bringing religion into the discussion. Way to stereotype, dudes.

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