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Old 03-22-2015, 12:34 AM   #33
eschwartz
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Originally Posted by DNSB View Post
I don't need to do the deDRM and format convert but I can sympathize with those who need to so in order to have the ability to read library books on their ereader of choice.
Well, I would need to do so, and thus feel qualified to be opinionated on the matter. But, moving on...

The one and only place where DRM is acceptable and makes sense, is on library loans, in order to enforce time-based restrictions. If one does not have a reader that supports ADE EPUB, and the book is only available as such, it is nevertheless plain and simple theft, to DeDRM them -- because now you have an unlimited copy of a book you never purchased.

I have found this opinion to be predominant, actually I have found people who believe as you do to be rarer than the fabled truth on the internet.

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Out of curiosity, why a dirty thief? Is there a stature requiring thieves to be less cleanly than the average person?
It is a figure of speech. Was that a really bad joke? Are you just a party-pooping literalist? Because idioms, metaphors, figures of speech etc. are a type of generally-accepted language construct that enhances day-to-day conversation... a concept I personally approve highly of.

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Just pointing out that eInk ereaders are a small and diminishing percentage of the ebook reader market. If 94%+ of the market is able to read library loan ebooks, how much time and effort should be put into supporting that increasingly small minority? Have you seen the number of reports that in the US ereader sales peaked in 2011? That dedicated ereader sales in the US will drop to under 8 million in 2015?
So you agree that what you said did not in fact have anything whatsoever to do with what I said, and therefore you shouldn't have confused everyone by quoting me?

But wait... your original statement was in fact:

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Only in the US. Here in BC, Canada, Kindle owners are already out in the cold when it comes to library books. Epub and PDF are the only two formats that seem to be supported for ereaders.
So I am starting to get REALLY confused as to what you are actually trying to say...

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Nor would I ever think of stopping you from holding your beliefs. However, please note that that does not require me to support your beliefs nor to believe that any congruence between your beliefs and reality exists. As Ralph Eichelberger once put it, "Sure, you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong you are." Admittedly, Harlan Ellison had a different opinion when he wrote ""You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant."
Wait, are you still living under the quite frankly insulting delusion that I believe the US is the center of the universe? Allow me to repeat: I do not believe the US is the center of the universe. I do however, have a valid right to be concerned in my own selfish way about anything that has the potential to cause me discomfort, even if overall more people benefit than lose out! This would be because I am not legally obligated to be self-sacrificing...

In this (theoretical) case, I am quite content to allow the minority of E-Ink readers, i.e. US Kindle owners, to benefit at the expense of the majority of E-Ink readers, i.e. world-wide owners of Kobo devices. ( )

What do beliefs have to do with it?
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