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Old 02-01-2015, 04:12 PM   #271
speakingtohe
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Originally Posted by crane3 View Post
Liking it doesn't mean that the product is good; not even windows which started as all glitz & no substance.

Let's see, my 1st encounter with apple was trying to decide whether to get an Atari or Apple II. On the Apple side: I want to use the TV as a monitor with Color? That's an extra $100; I want to be able to use both upper case & lower case? That's another $100.

Sometime later the Mac 512 came out & my coworker said that the Mac had a "very good" project management software. So brought my either Atari ST or Dos formatted 3 1/2 diskette. Put it in the Mac & expecting that it didn't like it but will format the diskette to suit, like normal computers. However, the Mac not only won't recognize it but won't format the diskette & won't eject it; my last resort was to just unplug the power whereby the diskette ejected; someone later that there is a pin-hole to use for ejecting the diskette!!?? We later got a loan of a LISA to checkout but it became just a printer server for the laserjet.

Went to buy a used 4mm tape drive for backup Dos/windows; was given a new Mac 4 mm tape drive & was told that it will work with the PC; but the PC version won't work with the Mac.

Found later that crapple used roms/chips in their hardware & that the OS won't work if the roms were not present. Was verified when the sysadmin swapped the hard disk between an IBM & a Mac, both drivers were made by Seagate. Naturally, the Mac drive worked on the PC but not the reverse, not even reformatting the drive. An apple user all the way from the the apple ii thought that something in the ram chips were done to stop users from not paying for apple ram.

It was noted that apple products are mostly bought by the boomer generation with much money; but the "me" gen mirrors them.

Of course, I used to use "microsh*t" term as well, but the censorship are being picky more now. I don't use win7 now only because I've had to do a fresh win7 install several times which looks like being messed up by the "security"/virus programs since each time the win7 got installed the ownership of the hard disks & partitions got changed & I had to change each back for permissible access. Win8 "fixed" the ownership problem as every ownership got changed instead of having various ownerships; but then win8 removed the normal user access to change ownership. The ownership forced a very long delay even when doing a "dir" to see the directory; & every time i tried to run a program or access a file, it goes thru the security, virus & other malware check......


I've decided to stop eating so many apples because of diabetes & will shortly saying "crapple".
Well you seem to have had more than your share of problems with both Apple and Windows products.

The only Apple type product I have had a lot of experience with was an Apple II clone I made from chips and a circuit board in 1981. I actually thought it was delightful.

I have been using Windows mostly from 3.0 on and while I encountered quite a few problems along the way and am never completely happy with them, I am overall comfortable with the system. I have used unix, xenix, CPM at home or at work as well as android and some obscure OS and basically I prefer Windows. But I don't hold any of the other operating systems in contempt.

Sorry about your diabetes. A bad thing to have to deal with and I wish you the best of luck.

Helen
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