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Originally Posted by covingtoncat73
A) you can eat meat and be against wanton cruelty.
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Unless one assumes eating meat IS the wanton cruelty, it seems.
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B) What, actually, would happen to all these animals from breeds/species that wouldn't even be here if we hadn't bred and raised them for food? You do know that there are many traditionally pet animals (cats, dogs) that can't find good homes, right? What will happen to all these domestic cows and pigs, not to mention poultry? No one is going to keep them in those numbers if they can't make a profit off of them. What is going to happen to all those animals if everyone becomes Vegan (or even just lacto-ovo)?
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Obviously, they form their own farm, and agree to share the benefits. Some wise animals (pigs maybe?) will oversee things and make sure all animals are treated equally, since humans cannot be trusted.
Or was that the wrong story?
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C) None of this, in my opinion, has anything to do with the kind of evil that would brutally kill a cute, innocent baby goat not even intended for the meat market just for revenge or kicks or being evil teenagers.
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Ah, but it seems people who eat meat do it just for kicks.
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/BTW, I believe that animals do have consciousness. There are levels of consciousness, IMHO. Even plants respond to music, for example.
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Does that mean if I pick a flower, I have murdered a conscious entity?

This is an excellent point -- more than mere "consciousness, on *some* level" is needed to make a collection of living cells deserving of special protection.