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Old 01-24-2015, 10:30 PM   #10
SteveEisenberg
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Fiat_Lux sounds reasonable to me.

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Kickstarter (and social funding sites like it) is very much able to replace publishers in this instance.
Next absurd strawman step to the fore.
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That's an interesting link, but it didn't say whether or not anyone had successfully crowd-funded a non-fiction book. It did, however, prompt me to have a deeper look at Kickstarter, and at least one person has used it to pay them a salary while writing a non-fiction book: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...2598/zenhabits.
From the last link:

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This book will help you make any change:

Exercise
Eating healthy
Getting out of debt
Overcoming procrastination
Losing weight
Dealing with frustrations & stress
Improving relationships
Simplifying & decluttering
Meditating and being mindful
Dealing with major life changes
And much more
This is not what I think of when I think of nonfiction.

Maybe the distinction shouldn't be between fiction and nonfiction, but between works of imagination, and books that require lots of research which includes traveling.

To me, it's not just a question of whether kickstarter reported and researched nonfiction books exist, but if a good argument can be made that they are among the best on the topic.

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I suspect that if it gets to the point where publishers are no longer able to afford advances for non fiction, then we were see more use of grants and patrons, kind of how the arts were paid for during the Renaissance.
Or academia today.

We've already seen several examples where newspapers and magazines have become a rich man's plaything.

This may be one:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...e-new-republic

If I'm right that kickstarter in particular, and self-publishing in general, isn't working for producing great research-and-reporting-intensive nonfiction, this means advance-paying publishers will remain strong there.
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