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Old 12-15-2014, 03:42 PM   #148
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@Hitch, thanks for the explanation. FWIW, I do agree with you, I just thought the whole Ferguson thing was less clear than it could've been...

(And no, MR'ers are not intrinsically any more equipped to parse logic than the rest of the internet. Sad but true. The internet is the internet. Bias is everywhere.)


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The "fault" is emotional and not logical because we don't really know who is at fault. For all I know it could be the managers smuggling out product and blaming the employees or it could be security (who will guard the guards). Yes the probability is that there are some employees stealing product but probability is not fact.
It isn't about fault. It is about consequences.

Probability is all we can go by, when the alternative is to simply do nothing at all and just Take It... and unfair though it might be (along with the other 99.99999999999% of Life, the Universe, and Everything), Amazon is within their rights to do so.

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And it is not the fault of those who stole nothing and were unaware of anyone who did. But they lose the same amount of time every day. And almost certainly outnumber the ones you blame by an order of magnitude.
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Presumes that they are aware of the theft, and who is responsible. Which seems like a real leap, to me. If the security people whose job it is can't catch the thieves, why would you think that the other warehouse employees who would not be doing their actual job if they are looking for thieves would be any better at it?
In order for Amazon to give a hoot about the whole situation, it would have to have become a significant enough problem to be noticeable.

It is not unreasonable to think that a significant proportion of the workers were directly culpable. And it is not unreasonable to think they would be more cautious while the security people were right next to them. The workers have a greater chance by far to see something than the security guards.

And people who see things happening that shouldn't be and are quiet about it, are aiding and abetting the perpetrators. (Whether that be potential: Amazon worker-thieves, or Ferguson cops-who-hate-blacks, or what have you.)
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