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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger
As many as there are iPhones I highly doubt those are only buyers at full retail price.
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Right. Firephone was attempted to be sold at the same subsidized price as iPhones and got few buyers. Nobody was interested in a Firephone at that price so Amazon dropped the price greatly in hopes to hit a price low enough that people would be attracted.
YOU posit this bad news for Apple. The same buyers who are paying the price Amazon tried to sell it's phone for but couldn't. The same buyers who could ALREADY buy a cheaper phone if that's what they wanted to do...but they didn't. They paid the price for the iPhone.
Ergo....those companies losing money on the fire sale of Amazon isn't likely to be Apple but other companies who likewise were selling cheap phones. Really isn't rocket science.
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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger
If it wasn't for subsidized phones, there wouldn't be as many iPhones around. The same is true for high end phones from Samsung, HTC and the like.
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Right. Samsung, HTC and others also make premium phones they sell for $199 even though the real price is much higher. Amazon thought they could join that party too. But alas, the phone is crap and they couldn't sell the phones at that price.
I doubt that many people who were going to pay $199 for the Samsung Galaxy S5 instead of the "free on Contract" Pantech cheap crap Android phone are going to instead go for the "free on Contract" Fire phone. No more than the Apple buyers. The Fire Phone will be sold to folks who WOULD have bought the cr@p free Android phone.
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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger
There is you not being open minded - a Mercedes does have a reason to be more expensive - it is a whole different class of vehicle. You are trying to say that the iPhone is like a Mercedes and a Fire phone merely qualifies as a Festiva or Fiesta? That is a pretty big hype for an iPhone. Did you ever see a subsidized Mercedes at the new car dealer that low income people can afford?
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This word you use, I do not think you know what it means. And yes, the Firephone is a phone so unlikes, so poorly received by the public, that it can only be sold really cheaply. In that way, it is the Ford Festiva to Apple's Mercedez. Unloved except for people who can't afford better.
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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger
No that is not a stretch at all. However it is a very big mistake to think that those were the only ones interested.
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I don't think anyone is interested. It's a phone with a losing concept from the get go. It's 3D interface is a flop. It isn't driving any sales. Taking a photo to find an item sold on Amazon. Not driving sales of the phone itself. Pretty good commercials of cute kids using the Firephone. Not driving sales. The phone was an absolute and utter flop.
We don't even know yet if being "free on contract" is going to be enough to sell this phone against Android phones and iPhones that can also be had free on contract. $450 unlocked...there are some really nice Android phones available at that price. After Christmas is over, and Amazon still has piles of these phones in warehouses....the price will drop lower still. Or maybe they'll be so embarrassed they'll just dump them in a landfill.