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@Davidfor I think I gonna stop now,because we just disagree and only try to "defend" our stands while we perhaps bother other people with it, i can't pull you to my side as a matter of speaking and you can not pull me to yours,maybe my examples are not the most heavvy in your opinion like the page back one, or you take them to literally, change 5 pages into 20..but then you can say who wants to go 20 pages back,don't call any amount of pages at all and just try to use the slider even to stay at the same page.
Hope still the same friends.
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