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Old 10-04-2014, 11:53 PM   #171
eschwartz
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Originally Posted by pwalker8 View Post
It is different, we are talking about the beat music subscription service which has a very small percentage of the subscription market. Spotify has some 10 million paying subscribers, beats only a few hundred thousand. But hey, let's not stop the narrative with a few inconvenient facts.
Like the inconvenient fact that they are doing the exact same thing? And that their percentage of the market doesn't magically make what they are doing any more or less bullying?

I am pretty sure the creators of any particular work, be it music or books or what have you, could use every penny they can get -- unless you are one of the really big names, you are not making an amazing living.

So what exactly is the difference, and why does any entity get a free pass to do something that is, according to you, abusive bullying, just because they need to compete with other services?

(Personally, I don't think either Apple or Amazon is doing anything wrong. But I think Apple should be taken to task anyway, on grounds of hypocrisy.)

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Really? So you believe that most customers would rather pay less money for indie authors than the normal price for name authors? Hum, I'm pretty sure you are dead wrong there. I guess we shall see.
I am pretty sure you are the only person who thinks bgalbrecht was talking about indie books...
I am pretty sure every customer in existence would rather pay less for name authors than pay "normal" price (really? what is "normal"? that is a thinly disguised attempt to insert your bias against reasonable prices). Sorry, but I'm pretty sure absolutely one hundred percent dead positive you are dead wrong there.

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Regardless, any benefit to the consumer is purely accidental when it comes to Amazon's attempt to strong arm the publishers into paying for Amazon selling ebooks at below than cost to get market share.
What is accidental about Amazon doing something because they said that that is what they are doing, while fitting in with their general theme -- going back to their first days in business -- of being "for the consumer"?

Also, why are you lying about "below cost"? Do you really think it costs more than $9.99 to produce a copy of an ebook? (I'll give you a hint. It costs maybe a penny per thousand books.)
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