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Originally Posted by crich70
I didn't say that every achievement must have suffering, nor did I say it had to be a deeply painful experience to count. Please do not put words in my mouth.
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I don't think I suggested that you did. Please don't put words in my mouth! I was arguing against your statement that;
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Originally Posted by crich70
So I think that while suffering might not define life it does add value to our achievements.
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You then modified your statement to;
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Originally Posted by crich70
I was just saying that there is satisfaction in achievement even though there is often some element of suffering involved.
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If all you are saying is that you can take pride in achievement
despite suffering, then, yes, I agree. But, you very clearly stated that suffering adds value to achievements (see above). That's what I disagree with. Perhaps you could clarify which of those two you actually mean? They're really quite different.