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Originally Posted by Bierius

Haven’t directly lied?! Oh silly me! I got all confused and thought they had completely lied. Well then, if it’s only a half lie it’s all ok then.

Where did I say that. Oh wait I diddn't. I was making a distinction between a direct untruth and lying by omission. And I was assuming that CommanderROR was refering to the conversation that I relayed and that someone else had had via email.

Since he has clarified that he was refering to his own communication with Irex where they specifically stated that the webshop would be open for individual orders that point is moot anyway.

And as Laurens said that could have been the truth at the time of the phonecall.

In my moment of weakness I almost started blabbering about customer trust, business ethics and transparency.

Customer trust: Things get delayed. Ok they could have been more upfront about it. Yes it's annoying I am probably as annoyed about it as you are. But as has been pointed out numerous times new products are often subject to delays at short notice.

They are only delaying by a few weeks (presuming that will actually be released within the next few weeks) even added to the previous 4/6 week delay this is still pretty small. If it gets delayed beyond that then start worrying.

They have suggested that the consumers (vs the 'professional' market they have always maintained was their primary focus) may want to wait for a planned "consumer version" rather than go with the inital offering. As that will be more directly geared towards them.

That haven't said you won't be able to get it. Just that they recommend that you wait a bit.

Transparency: This is a new marketplace with _3_ new products coming out in a relatively short period. There is transparency and then there is outright stupidity. "Lets just tell these 2 competitors, one of which is a huge corporation with very deep pockets, what our problems are!"

Business ethics: IMO thats an oxymoron.

It's bad business practice to deliberatly mislead your potential customers. On this I think we can all agree.

Without knowing exactly what has been happening at Irex recently no one can state that they had no intention of releasing the iLiad either in April or May. I sincerely doubt they intentionally mislead anyone here.

They may not have told the whole truth. But equally people have been reading their own meaning into what they actually have said. As Laurens mentioned earlier we have generated our own hype about the product.

Originally Posted by VillageReader

The b2b orders should be 'volume' users (although a sole proprietorship would probably qualify as b2b even with QTY1). In electronics, higher volume nearly always leads to a lower price on components. By September, iRex might be willing to pass that savings to consumers and keep margins constant rather than increasing.

That was exactly what I thought when I read the announcement.