@BR
no, it is NOT there. It is present in other "block_ " bits within the stylesheet, but not in those ones. I am going to add it on and see what happens.
Just to be clear, I didn't decide any of that. Calibre during conversion decided to use what where.
@theducks,
I have noticed that within the editor whether or not I had "value= " made no difference at all to the text being displayed, but since it was there, I left it in...
didn't understand the other bit
Thanks again