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Old 09-09-2014, 06:24 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Jellby View Post
Yeah, the "absolutely positioned elements" makes sense. Once you move an element out of the normal flow and place it on top of the page (say), you cannot ask for a pagebreak relative to this element.

Absolutely positioned elements are disencouraged in ePub 2 anyway.
Just so I'm on the record:

Any possibility that we can all agree that we should NOT be using "px" to set vertical whitespace elements? Ems or % would really, really work better.

And all this, over the "blank page" (that doesn't exist), that's created, on the fly if/when the reader sizes the font in such a way, and uses font X instead of font y, and IF s/he has the iPad rotated to read in two-page/column mode...honestly, why all the drama?

Here's the thing: no matter how typographically perfect we want to make our work, they are NOT. PRINT. Books. Trying to force two pages to be on the left- and right-hand "pages" of a reader that may/mayn't be rotated in landscape, may/mayn't have font X, etc....What happens if you have a sight-impaired user who cranks up the font size, with that 42px "top-margin?" what happens THEN?

I am all for trying to make books as beautiful as possible, but sometimes, you can't work around certain things, like forcing readers to ONLY see a book in one-page mode. To me, that's the very definition of being anti-e-reader. What happens with that 42px top-margin/padding/whatever when this is purchased on an iPad mini or an iPhone? And when the ex libris overflows on the mini, what happens to that beautiful "two-page-spread" then?

We can be as artistic as we want, but we also need to accept what eBooks do well, and what they do NOT. A lot of what gets talked about (page break here, page-break before:, page-break after, etc.) doesn't work on all readers. And the "extra page thing?" Again: it's only relevant when someone is reading in LANDSCAPE mode. You know how often I see someone reading in landscape mode? NEVER. I mean it: NEVER. It's time to embrace the GOOD, and learn to GRACEFULLY live with the other.

Sorry to get off on a tear, but at the very least, let's try to avoid using PX for positioning in REFLOWABLE BOOKS.

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