[DuckieTigger]

@bizzybody All well and true. The better self published books do involve some sort of editor - either a real professional editor and/or beta-readers. Beeing published traditionally is to get past the gatekeepers, but that does not mean at all that everything published traditionally will be a success. Same goes for self published - to be good and bestselling involves more than simply publishing.

And yes I stumbled across self published books that could use an editor. Heck I seen books that have obvious cut and paste errors - and an author that is so full of himself saying: I know I am good, don't have to be told, I just need to gain more readers. If you are that good, you should know when to ask for help in form of a hired editor or in the very least family members / friends to act as editor. It doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Arrogance on the other hand costs much needed recommendations.