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Old 07-07-2014, 10:20 AM   #9
LisaAlissa
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Hi Lisa,

Thanks for your reply. I like the idea of postfixing a braced number, I think I'm going to adopt that style. .
Hi Rolk,

You’re welcome.

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Originally Posted by rolk View Post
So in the way you suggest 'Ultimate' ends up in the Series field right? How does this work in the main display? I thought the main display sorts books based on title_sort, which is why I'm trying to maintain that separate from the title field. .
Actually the main display is capable of much more than this. It can sort based on most (any?) of the columns. I usually keep mine sorted based on “Date” (which is the date I added the book). But you should experiment a bit to see what you prefer. Click on the title of that column, and it will rearrange based on that. If you prefer a reverse-chron order, click the column again (see the small arrow at the top of the column to see which way the column is being sorted). So it can also sort based on (among other things) Series, Title, Author, Ratings, values in your custom columns, even first or last (in alpha order) Tag!

Try clicking on the various columns and see what you get. You can limit the number of things displayed in the main display by using either the "Tag Browser" (which doesn't necessarily have anything to do w/ tags) or the advanced search pop-up window. The four buttons in the lower left-hand corner of the main display are toggle buttons. You can show or not show various elements (to allow you to conserve screen space as you find it most useful). One of the elements you can show is the Tag Browser, which will allow you to limit the display to various sub-sets of your library.

You'll note that using either the Tag Browser or the Search pop-up will add values to the "search bar"...which you can ignore (as the Tag Browser or Search pop-up is managing the search terms for you). But it's useful to note that you can return to your main display (and all of it's entries) by clicking the black-arrow-with-an-x-on-it which is to the right of the "Go!" button.

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Originally Posted by rolk View Post
Suppose your series is called 'The Ultimate Series' and has three books:

'The Ultimate Series - Introduction to Ultimate'
'The Ultimate Series - More Ultimate'
'The Ultimate Series - The Ultimate Ultimate'

And you also have another publication by the same author:

'Nothing Ultimate'

not part of this series.

Then you'd have the following entries:

Code:
title                         title_sort                          series
Introduction to Ultimate (1)  Brief Introduction to Ultimate      Ultimate
More Ultimate (2)             More Ultimate                       Ultimate
The Ultimate Ultimate (3)     The Ultimate Ultimate               Ultimate
Nothing Ultimate              Nothing Ultimate
Now, wouldn't the title_sort field cause the main display to display these books as:

Code:
title                         title_sort                          series
Introduction to Ultimate (1)  Brief Introduction to Ultimate      Ultimate
More Ultimate (2)             More Ultimate                       Ultimate
Nothing Ultimate              Nothing Ultimate
The Ultimate Ultimate (3)     The Ultimate Ultimate               Ultimate

My thought was to use title_sort to keep this a bit organized. In this example, I'd like it so that all 'Ultimate' publications are kept close together, but perhaps there is a better way.
"Title Sort" isn't actually a separate column (in the main display)—it's just how Calibre will sort the Title column (if you choose to sort by Title). For example, not alphabetizing using "The" and "A" and "An" (which the "title sort" field therefore shows as dropped to the end of the title in the "Edit Metadata" pop-up). So your middle column (in your examples) will never actually be shown in the main display. You'll see these only on the "Edit Metadata" pop-up. If you see a sort of the Title column that seems odd, you can check why Calibre sorted that way by checking the Title Sort field on the Metadata pop-up.

The main display would make a couple of changes to what you suggest here (I'll mark them in red), but before I do, let's add a short story between books 1 & 2 in the Ultimate series to your list. While the numbers in the Series designation increment by whole numbers by default (in the Edit Metadata pop-up), you can edit them to fractions like this: The Ultimate Story (1.5). If I then sort in the main display, using the Title column, I'll get this (note that the middle column below won't display...I've left it in the example below only so you see why the title column will be displayed in this order, instead of putting the short story at the top of the list):

Code:
title                         title_sort                     series
Introduction to Ultimate (1)  /\Introduction to Ultimate (1) Ultimate [1]
More Ultimate (2)             More Ultimate (1)              Ultimate [2]
Nothing Ultimate              Nothing Ultimate
An Ultimate Story (1.5)       Ultimate Story (1.5), An       Ultimate [1.5]  
The Ultimate Ultimate (3)     Ultimate Ultimate (3), The     Ultimate [3]
If you use your Tag Browser to select the author of the "Ultimate Series" (green plus next to name in the Tag Browser—red minus will exclude those entries from the main display and category icon will have no effect on the display) and then choose a Series sort for the main display you'll get this:

Code:
title                           series
Nothing Ultimate        
Introduction to Ultimate (1)    Ultimate [1]
An Ultimate Story (1.5)         Ultimate [1.5]
More Ultimate (2)               Ultimate [2]
The Ultimate Ultimate (3)       Ultimate [3]
If you sort by title, in reverse alpha order (click the title of the column twice) you get this:
Code:
title                             series

The Ultimate Ultimate (3)         Ultimate [3]
An Ultimate Story (1.5)           Ultimate [1.5]
Nothing Ultimate             
More Ultimate (2)                 Ultimate [2]
Introduction to Ultimate (1)      Ultimate [1]
But returning to the question of adding series info to the title, you'll notice that the Series list includes all of the series numbers...so for purposes of the main display, you don't need the numbers in parentheses that I add to titles. I add them because they're useful when I'm using iTunes to access my Calibre library to add a book to a reading app on either my iPad or iPhone. When I'm doing that, I can't see the Calibre main display, just a list of authors, and once I select an author, that author's book titles, as shown in Calibre. If it wasn't for this, I probably wouldn't bother adding series numbers to titles.

BTW, if you don't like the columns you have, or the order they're in, you can change that too. For example, I use two custom columns to manage my reading and explain that here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=242247

HTH,

Lisa

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