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Old 06-30-2014, 10:50 AM   #68
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Originally Posted by WillAdams View Post
Okay, let's break it down:

- $73.94 comes in
- $61.11 goes out
- $12.83 is left and has to cover:
- credit card fee ~2--2.5% --- at most $1.85, so they have
$10.98 (or more) of potential profit which merely has to cover the expense of running a transaction on a server and sending some e-mail and storing some data and serving up some web pages (trivial cost of operation folded into the balance of their budget), maybe a banking fee on the $61.11, &c.

The merchantplace sales should be pretty much pure profit for Amazon for those sellers which don't pose problems (and even those expenses are minimal --- e-mail from a customer sales representative and maybe some chargebacks --- the onus is on the marketplace seller), so thus far, the only people making money on my book are:

- the printer (I don't mind, they worked hard)
- Amazon (annoying, and I wish there was an on-line service w/ better terms)
- the Abebooks reseller who has thus far convinced 3 people to pay his inflated prices when my copy was available for list price
I've had the very same discussion with my former employer (country CEO of the German organization) 10 years ago:
"I don't have additional overhead in my project, all is covered within my single project".
In this project, my Gross Margin had been 30%. And my assumption had been: No additional costs in my project = 30% net profit.
But that's not how a corporate operates.
There is a back office in place, whether it's needed for a specific project or not. Same for IT infrastructure, R&D, sales, marketing, .....
It's simply a mixed calculation. Total revenue vs. total overhead costs = SAG (Sales, Administration, General).
And like I wrote before: You won't find any big corporate, with a total SAG below 12% to 15%. And that's the rare exceptions, most having >>20%.

And btw: Look at the figures of Amazon. Their profit margin is pretty thin, they barely generate any profit (yet!). Same for Facebook.

BTW: The printer, on average, generates a Gross Margin of 28% (German printing association 2013). Still, more than 2/3 of those (in Germany) are close to chapter 11. 28% seems pretty steep at first glance, considering they only need some machines and people. But of course their equipment is financed over a period of 8 years. They may not do any invests for a few years, but still have to cover significant interest rates.

Brief anecdote:
One of my former colleagues tried to get approval for a deal:
2% Gross Margin.
His argument:
Average order size = € 1.000.
So the Gross Profit is € 20. This should be more than adequate for 2 mouse clicks and an automated email = 1 minute work for an operative with an hourly rate of € 20.
Of course the deal didn't get approval.
Not even for 10% did they approve.

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