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Originally Posted by tompe
No, in Sweden overdrive is not used.
You assume that things must work exactly like today and then claim that libraries need DRM.
And no it is not piracy if they lend the book and trust the borrower and the publisher is OK with that.
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Well, since we are discussing Tor books being available on OverDrive (with DRM), let me ask... whatever system Sweden uses, does it have Tor books in the catalog? If not, then I fail to see what you are attempting to say.
Unless you are sneakily agreeing with us, that Sweden doesn't use DRM in libraries, and thus none of the major worldwide publishers will do business with them, and thus the catalog is tiny.
(But you are right that libraries don't need DRM. If only anyone was arguing with you.
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Since, after all, most publishers are
not OK with giving people free copies of the book under the guise of a library "loan".
If you have got a system for ensuring that borrowers cannot keep the book after the loan expires, but doesn't use DRM, I am sure we'd all like to hear it; keep in mind that any rights management system,
encryption-based or not, fits the definition of "Digital
Rights Management".
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Originally Posted by tompe
Can you give me an example of anybody anywhere that have been prosecuted for just downloading (not uploading) an ebook for personal use? I have actually never heard about that happening. So according to your logic that would be OK to do.
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Not OK, just perfectly doable. Since all HarryT was trying to say was that removing DRM is doable without prosecution,
not that it is OK, the OK-ness of the matter must be judged by entirely other means, i.e. Fair Use.
Fair Use soothes my guilt over removing DRM on purchases, but not over downloading books from pirate sites. Hence removing the DRM is OK (because I consider it to be so) but downloading pirated books is not OK (again, because I consider it to be so).