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Old 06-10-2014, 10:34 PM   #24172
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Originally Posted by Hitch View Post
Umhmm. Because that's not happening in that scenario. She's not "handling him." LOL. Having a direct conversation isn't 'controlling someone.' Having to have a "discuss both sides of an issue and resolve it [without hurting the man's ego]" conversation is...NOT manipulation?
No, it is not manipulation. It's not controlling someone. It's discussion, a balanced, rational approach to problem solving.

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So, according to you, when I say "no" to my husband's question about X, I'm being controlling and manipulative, but if I went through a boatload of gyrations, so that he could think that the outcome was as you described, "working for a balanced end," that's not manipulative?
I'm really not sure just how you managed to get that 180 degrees backwards from what I wrote, but you did.

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I've decided to bow out of this discussion, as I can't see it going anyplace good.
Probably for the best. Especially with a ending of 'women spend their lives getting large, dumb potentially-dangerous animals to do what they want, and they do it by getting them to think it's their idea.' I can almost see the riding crop in your hands, handling your big dumb animal as you see fit.

Is there any wonder why so, so many Western men retire to Asia?


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