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Originally Posted by leebase
Ummm...oookay. You do realize that the early iterations of the PC were even worse, right? I got a good couple years out of the original iPad....but I haven't updated my home PC in many years. Wasn't true back when PC's were just new. Every iteration was far more powerful than the one before, and thus the software written for it wouldn't work well on the older models.
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Considering that we built our first PC's, back in the early 80's, yes, of course I know that. I didn't say that new iterations of devices shouldn't be "more powerful." I said that they shouldn't be ABANDONED. Not quite the same thing.
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I haven't bought a new PC to get "more power to run the latest apps" in 10 years. I buy them now when the old ones break down in such a way that it's cheaper for new than investing more money in old computers.
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Yes, as do I, as I think I made clear vis-a-vis the Lenovo. Again, not my point; what I was talking about was Apple quite cavalierly determining not to update the first-gen iPad, in order to force people to buy newer ones. Surely you do realize that this has been their attitude for years? They abandon OS's, hardware, etc., with regularity. It's not an aberration, this thing with the iPad. I've certainly read about Apple-Angst vis-a-vis myriad OS'es, computers, etc., for
years. It's a deliberate sales strategy.
And...were this true, wouldn't you expect the iPad tablets to be getting cheaper? I don't seem to recall ANY Apple product getting cheaper--
ever. I can't speak to all the Mac products, I freely admit; but of the iPods I've bought for the other half, the iPhones his nieces/nephews seem obsessed with, and the iPad and mini-mac, can't say I've seen a PENNY cheaper over the years. All I see is more stuff that "looks cool" and costs the earth. Hey, I'm not knocking their business model if they can get away with it...but it's not for me as a "consumer" of tech products. I'll take a nice affordable PC any day that will have the same OS for 10 years. If the applications software outgrows it (like programs with XP), that's one thing--that's organic, and I can live with that. But being chucked over by an OS that isn't supported by the same company that sold the device? Nyaaaaaaaah, no. It's just not the same as continuing to use OLDER versions of the same program (say, not upgrading to Word 2013 because you're on XP); on an iPad, most apps will no longer RUN at ALL on the older, non-upgradeable iOS. That's the point.
My apps don't "not run" because the first-gen doesn't have enough POWER; they don't run because the OS wasn't updated. Compare that to MS supporting XP for, what, more than 12 years? (Which still runs on my Lenovo?) So, no: I don't think it's
remotely comparable, and I was around for the "olden days" of things like the IBM PC's, floppies, and even before that...when I was working with TAPE (PDP8's and 10's), never mind 80-column punch cards. The latter, admittedly, not relevant to this particular discussion.
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Tablets are simply at a much earlier point in the maturity cycle, and the iPad one is really "version 1" of the modern tablet era
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Well, next time, I'll buy a nice used iPad2 or 3, because I'm not giving Apple another penny of MY money. I have already been stuck with the iPad and the (another Thou) Mac-mini thing that I'm using as another paperweight on my desk, because I occasionally have to phone-consult clients through Transporter, and to do that, need to be able to visualize what they are doing. (And, heavens forfend that a mere mortal with a PC be allowed to TRANSPORT a book! Ye GODS!) The OS on the mini also has been chucked, AFAIK. {shrug}. I guess Apple-people are accustomed to this type of treatment, but it's something that I find
exceedingly off-putting.
I don't want to get in the middle of some "is too, is not" Apple-PC thing. My "consumer" experience with Apple has soured me on them. (I won't even bore everyone with the tedious story of how they couldn't manage to figure out WHY I couldn't create an iTunes Producer account for nearly two months--*I* had to figure it out, even getting jabbed with PAID support, mind you. It was as simple as, they didn't allow for an email address extension of ".biz." Geniuses. And they NEVER figured it out. No error-trapping for it; the thing would just sit there like a lump. OR,
how Apple support tells people that mobi files are "corrupted" because they can't figure out that the moron at the other end of the line doesn't know how to download a file from their own email to their OWN Mac computer. I wish I had $100 for every time that's happened. I could buy a new car.)
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