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Originally Posted by aceflor View Post
I know we are talking about 8" tablets, and I am too waiting for the surface pro mini, but in the mean time have been using two bigger windows 8.1 tablets, one with (Samsung Ativ Tab 3) and one without stylus (Asus Transformer T100).

Funny enough, I get much better performances out of the Ativ, which has received really bad reviews everywhere (it features a Clover Trail processor whereas all new ones are on Bay Trail). I have had no problems whatsoever running everything I need. It runs 8.1, has Office Home, an S-pen and a nifty cover with a BT keyboard.

So for those reading this, wanting a win 8.1 tablet with a pen, and not needing it to for photographic projects (I hear Photoshop has problem running smoothly on the Ativ Tab) but maybe for classes or small graphic works (this is my primary use for it), the Ativ could be an alternative. I use Office extensively, One Note, surf the web, watch movies, read during recess. I do not play games with it.

I bought the tablet new for 399,-€ including S-Pen (it slips in the tablet) and BT Keyboard Cover. The format is 10.1", and for those of you owning a Galaxy Note 10.1", the Ativ Tab 3 will look extremely familiar. I have a Galaxy Note 8 and it has been a great companion, but my work group switched to One Note and I needed a Win 8.1 solution because the Android One Note version is just crap.

I will still look at the Surface Pro Mini (if it ever comes out) but am not sure at all to like the price....

Edited to say: Oh, yes, the most important : as with every Samsung I have owned, the S-Pen is just magical. How can it be possible that only Samsung gets it to work perfectly well ? After all, it is using Wacom too. I had tried an Asus Vivotab a month ago and was very disappointed with the stylus performance, I never had a Dell in my hands (they are hard to find) but did not read the best about their stylus.
My Dell Latitude 10, which I had bought 14 months ago, performs very well, too.
The new processors seem to be more efficient regarding energy consumption.
But regarding performance, I haven't run in any serious problems on the Latitude 10 either.
And surprisingly enough, the WACOM stylus on Latitude 10 is slightly more precise than the one on my Surface Pros 1 and 2.

I think, Kumabjorn's explanation totally makes sense.
It's been a while, since I've had a Samsung unit.
But if the note app really stops 1cm from the bezel, this helps avoiding 99% of the WACOM problems.
On Surface Pro, personally my main issue is in the upper left corner. Starting about 8mm from the bezel and getting disastrous (the marker suddenly "jumping" a few millimeters) the last 5mm.
On a small unit with 8" or something like that, loosing an entire centimeter (on each side!) probably wouldn't be acceptable. But on anything bigger than 10"...

Given the experience with WACOM, I had been extremely scecptical about the pen on Dell Venue 8 Pro.
I had ordered it without the pen.
Then, after hearing some positive reviews about the second generation pen, I've ordered that pen.
My simple thought: It's optional. If it's too frustrating, I simply won't use it.
The only letdown: There's no slot in the housing, I have to attach it to the cover or take it with me in a suit pocket or something like that.

Anway:
Performance, even on 18 months old Windows 8 tablets, usually is more than adequate.
I'm pretty sure: If the desktop (which seems to confuse lots of users) would be "hidden" as a background task and if there would be more games and such in the Windows store, acceptance of Windows tablets would be on par with Android and iOS...
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