Desertgrandma, you are right about starting with the water. We actually did that is why we had 4 little spray bottles around to put the vinegar in. And it was quite effective with my boy kitty. However, for my husband's little girl kitty once the shock value wore off after a few months her attitude became "so what?" Then it went to "I like to splash in the water! Do it again-I don't care!" That is when my friend started her zoo keeper training and talked about the vinegar. We have never had a bite/scratch problem, but she was starting to regularly destroy things in her play so we needed another solution. It worked, but it does stink.
