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Old 03-24-2014, 11:41 PM   #408
Rizla
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Originally Posted by rkomar View Post
Consciousness being fundamental to quantum theory is one interpretation. There are other interpretations that don't require consciousness.
I didn't know that. I thought the role of consciousness in the double-slit experiment was inescapable. Do you have links?

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To me, the argument that the state is indeterminate until observed sounds just like "Is the fridge light on when the door is closed?", or "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a noise?". You can always argue that something else could be happening when we're not looking because you can't prove that it's not, but there doesn't seem to be any justification for it.
The repeated observations of indeterminacy in the quantum world is justification for considering it. The paradox of Schrödinger's cat suggests that indeterminacy can exist on a macroscopic scale.

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You would have to prove to me what is so special about our consciousness that the rest of the world can only wait for its attention.
I never said "our consciousness." I said consciousness.

The double-split experiment shows that consciousness plays a "special" role in the behavior of reality. It collapses the wave function.
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