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Originally Posted by hardcastle
I'm just offering examples to counter your claim that "society has [not] benefitted greatly" from derivatives created from public domain works (your words, quoted directly, sic). I never claimed to make any other point, at least in relation to you.
Your opinion is also a slippery slope fallacy, not to mention ad hominem.
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Not quite getting the Ad Hominem argument. Whom was I personally attacking. Surely not all authors derivative or not? It is not them who are putting forth the arguments AFAIK.
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If your definition of success for the public domain is "every single book ever written uses it" then we shouldn't even bother discussing the topic.
No, not "everybody" is using Shakespeare, Dickens, Austin, or dozens of other writers from other time periods, but even a non-trivial amount of people doing so is worth the effort. The widespread use of fiction worlds for fan-fiction are further proof that writers of every age and talent level are interested in using other works as a starting point for further writing, be it practice or serious publishing efforts - both beneficial to mass culture in the long run.
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Where did I say or imply that every single book uses anything? Quite the opposite in fact. Very few books among the millions heavily use Shakespeare, Dickens, Austin, or dozens of other writers from other time periods. And yes I can see the benefits to culture, but I don't see the serious harm to culture of them having to wait the legal time period unless the work that they were derived from ceases to exist or is n eminent danger of ceasing to exist.
Helen
Edit: Just curious as to what the big cultural advantageouses are for fan fiction? Nothing against it if it is author approved, but how has it improved the world at large or even your world significantly. You can change my mind you know