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brewt · 10-15-2008, 07:10 PM

Damn wall is winning.

Ok, so now this is making even less sense to me than before.

IF we were to try to use InDesign to build an Epub (which the Adobe forums says is the right thing to do - gotta think about the deals with Sony, etc), you can.

However, one of the features of epub is Css with Xhtml. In fact, were you to rename you .epub to .zip you could extract it and see the html files and the css files and the fonts you embedded.

Except you cannot import those things onto an InDesign Document. You have to import/place a Word Document (or InCopy). So all the cool tricks you can do with Css is lost in InDesign, 'cause it don't see it so good - word strips it out when saving a a Word Doc. And I can't see where to import a css into indesign, because, well, it would ignore it any way because it's using Word Styles. So you have to build the styles into InDesign. Except, they are over-ridden when importing a Word Document by the Word styles, which are then ignored when exported as an epub because they aren't css styles.

So you get a plain epub with nothing cool in it.

Sooooo.... back to Calibre (0.4.95).....if I build an html file in Word, and convert the Word Styles to a .css file and remove the word styles from the html file, I then have to hand-relink it back in Calibre or I get a blank epub - the html is there, but it needs the .css to display.

It seems that font embedding isn't in Calibre (yet) - as the indesign seems to sometimes have (even though my font du jour SAYS it can be embedded, ID is not including it in the package today - 'nother myst'ry), but it really doesn't matter since there seems to be almost no style control in InDesign in the output epub. That at least I have any skill in exerting. It still keeps going back to the source Word doc, if you tell it to NOT export css style names only (guess that makes some sense). otherwise it strips the styles.

Is font embedment/css something to look for in calibre? Or do I just once again not know how?

-bjc

baffled-y-er and baffled-y-er

ooop - forgot the attachment. Word Document, what I'm seeing in Indesign, and the epub. 3 different critters, if you ask me.

10-15-2008, 07:10 PM	#52
brewt Boo-Frickety-Hoo-Erizer Posts: 251 Karma: 686 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Kobo Glo HD!	Damn wall is winning. Ok, so now this is making even less sense to me than before. IF we were to try to use InDesign to build an Epub (which the Adobe forums says is the right thing to do - gotta think about the deals with Sony, etc), you can. However, one of the features of epub is Css with Xhtml. In fact, were you to rename you .epub to .zip you could extract it and see the html files and the css files and the fonts you embedded. Except you cannot import those things onto an InDesign Document. You have to import/place a Word Document (or InCopy). So all the cool tricks you can do with Css is lost in InDesign, 'cause it don't see it so good - word strips it out when saving a a Word Doc. And I can't see where to import a css into indesign, because, well, it would ignore it any way because it's using Word Styles. So you have to build the styles into InDesign. Except, they are over-ridden when importing a Word Document by the Word styles, which are then ignored when exported as an epub because they aren't css styles. So you get a plain epub with nothing cool in it. Sooooo.... back to Calibre (0.4.95).....if I build an html file in Word, and convert the Word Styles to a .css file and remove the word styles from the html file, I then have to hand-relink it back in Calibre or I get a blank epub - the html is there, but it needs the .css to display. It seems that font embedding isn't in Calibre (yet) - as the indesign seems to sometimes have (even though my font du jour SAYS it can be embedded, ID is not including it in the package today - 'nother myst'ry), but it really doesn't matter since there seems to be almost no style control in InDesign in the output epub. That at least I have any skill in exerting. It still keeps going back to the source Word doc, if you tell it to NOT export css style names only (guess that makes some sense). otherwise it strips the styles. Is font embedment/css something to look for in calibre? Or do I just once again not know how? -bjc baffled-y-er and baffled-y-er ooop - forgot the attachment. Word Document, what I'm seeing in Indesign, and the epub. 3 different critters, if you ask me. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by brewt; 10-15-2008 at 07:21 PM.