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Originally Posted by GrannyGrump

I did this with the edition of Roughing It that I uploaded here at MR: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=223247.

The print first edition had two frontispieces. (See Internet Archive: https://archive.org/stream/roughingi...ge/n9/mode/2up )
I set the first one into Chapter 33, where it references the text. I had set the second "generic" one just before the dedication, but in the revision (which I hope to complete *any minute now* ), I am moving it in front of the half-title.

Also see AlexBell's upload of Innocents Abroad (https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=220749), he moved the frontispiece to Chapter 7.

Thank you for the examples, and in this case, this "change" makes PERFECT sense (and is exactly what I would do).

In my experiences, the only frontispieces I have run into have been a picture of the author + his/her name. I usually just keep those in their position (right around the Cover/Title Page). I can see an argument being made for removing something this in an EPUB edition (I mean, with Wikipedia + Google, is there any author where you can't find a better picture/information?), but I usually just keep it in there.

Again, stressing my mentality of keeping it the same as the print version is never a bad idea.

Originally Posted by GrannyGrump

My "about" page might seem oddball and amateurish, and maybe I should move it to the back of the book, but what good is a synopsis AFTER you have read the book?

LOL, exactly why I was struggling with mashing the Title Pages together... I always doubt my skills (I haven't read a massive amount of books, I just convert them! And I sure as hell don't have an eye for art/beauty.) Plus, I don't have a very diverse reading genre (where I can see a massive amount of different styles).

I even feel bad adding my own text to the copyright page!

Originally Posted by GrannyGrump

I wonder if misinterpreted faithfulness is why I see ebooks with "This page intentionally left blank"...

I must admit, this is what I did when I first got into converting EPUBs (I specifically recall doing this in Index sections). Indexes just made me want to pull my hair out.

Now, I would rather just have the person leave properly OCRed text in the Index, but poorly formatted, over having a "This page intentionally left blank", or "COMING SOON (NEVER)" ). What if the PDF disappears? What if I don't have access to THAT EXACT edition you derived the EPUB from? Now that "intentionally left blank" will forever be blank!

With the Indexes, I learned Regex, and Indexes are some of the easiest sections of the book! So if I left the text in those older EPUBs, I would be able to go back and easily fix/update them.

So leave all the text in there, as accurate as you can possibly convert it, and maybe someone at some future date might come up with a tool to make your life easier. You can always go back and edit junk, but it is hard to edit something when it doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by AlexBell

One of the reasons I still do a title page is that it's a convenient place for the copyright notice, and for a mention of the edition I've used - if that's relevant. And some of the look so good that I think they're worth keeping.

Originally Posted by mrmikel

The copyright date can also make a difference if there is variation between editions, so it is worth showing if it is available.

In all of the EPUBs that I officially (paid) to convert, the publisher usually has a little "Publisher" page, and we add the information to the copyright page. So every book that I convert, we have settled on adding this to the copyright pages:

Digital edition MONTH YEAR by the Mises Institute

ISBN: XXX-X-XXXXX-XXX-X
eISBN: XXX-X-XXXXX-XXX-X

If none exist (for example, a very old book), we just add our own "copyright" page that states that info.

ISBN = original book's ISBN, or our new Print ISBN
eISBN = our new ISBN for this ebook edition

Of course, if you are not selling these EPUBs, you would not have an ISBN/eISBN... but I still think it might be a good idea to add your own page saying when you converted, and by who.

So this is the layout I settled on for nearly all (official) EPUBs:

• Cover
• Title Page (Optional)
• Publisher Page
• Copyright
• Rest of the book [...]

Here is an example of our Publisher Page + Copyright Page:



This allows us to have a consistent layout for the entire catalog of EPUBs. You might also want to make a "consistent" look/layout throughout your own conversions as well.

Of course, if the original book has a copyright page that is completely centered, then I would add that same, consistent information, and then center it to match the look of the original. I used to disperse our information between the original copyright info, but we just settled on shoving our information at the very end of the copyright page, after all the original text. (This way we can be consistent across all EPUBs, no matter the design of the original book's Title Page).

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Sometimes I use a Title page as the cover.

Meaning you take a snapshot of the Title Page right out of the scan? I used to do this when I first got started... but the quality/resolution was crap, it would not scale well (pure text in images, almost always a bad idea), and I just saw it as bloating the EPUB. I would rather just have basic plain HTML text, than having some crappy low resolution/hideous image. (Think of the future, when higher resolution devices/monitors come out, that image of the Title Page WILL NOT scale well).

Luckily, all the official ones I get paid for, they have an artist design a fantastic high-resolution cover, which I can plop in. For all those that I convert unofficially, I just keep the HTML there (no cover in the book at all).

Side Note: Stay FAR away from covers that Calibre pulls down from Amazon/B&N/elsewhere. No offense, but the compression/quality on those is............. extremely poor. Try to hunt down higher resolutions off of the author's site. In many cases, I would rather go with no cover in the book at all than have a low resolution/horribly compressed JPG. I wish that B&N/Amazon would actually host the high resolution covers they force authors to submit.

Now, if only I had art skills, I would want to create high quality covers for ALL the books that I do! Even being able to create basic ones, derived from the originals.

Here are three covers that an artist whipped up for me, which kept the spirit of the original (crappy original off my phone + new, crisp, amazing digital versions):





Those covers bring a tear to my eye!

These were three books that I personally purchased and digitized, and they are the only digital versions that exist online! (I have one more book by Leonard Read that isn't anywhere online sitting right next to me, but I have yet to digitize it).

Originally Posted by DaleDe

My goal is to make the reading experience the same as a paper book except when the eBook solution would be better such as links that work and perhaps combining a two volume book into one volume.

Exactly.

Or the case of tackling journals. Sometimes you want to do more logical choices, such as combining entire years together.