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First my on-topic response to this thread: I am looking forward to the Android 4.4 OTA update of my Nexus 7 (2013). While I could see some folks being irritated that the roll out is gradual it doesn't bother me at all. But to say it is Day 19 of the rollout ...

Now for the off-topic portion of my post.

Originally Posted by PatNY

That's because both those apps already hide the android buttons and top nav bar in reading mode -- at least on my Nooks. Those areas just go to plain black when reading. Are your settings incorrect? Do you have "Full Screen Mode" in settings checked?

Congratulations your device already does what @Faterson is looking forward to experiencing.

Originally Posted by PatNY

No, on my devices the view using the volume buttons is the same as when you tap or swipe the pages. Also, you DON'T need to tap the screen twice on my device to see the Moon's toolbar. I only have to tap it once.

I can't speak to your device, but on a Nexus 7 when you change to flipping pages via the volume keys the view looks the same until you actually flip a page then all of the screen area is covered by the page.

Now once reading via the volume keys if you wish to get back to the toolbar you need to tap twice. Once to exit the volume key turning mode and a second time to show the toolbar.

The fact that your device may actually operate different than a Nexus 7 was politely pointed out to you in the next post (quoted below).

Originally Posted by Faterson

Everything is checked as it should be, but there is no help on Jelly Bean, other than flipping pages with the volume button on the new Nexus 7. Please understand that every Android device may behave a bit differently running the same software, so I can only congratulate you if you're not seeing the same things I am.

At this point you should have seen the light. Your device operates exactly how he wished his Nexus 7 worked.

Originally Posted by Faterson

I also wrote to the Moon+ developer back in the Jelly Bean era, and he replied there was simply nothing he could do to ensure true full screen in Jelly Bean on the Nexus 7. Fortunately, this will no longer be important now under KitKat.

He even went on to cite a conversation with the developer where the developer says he was stuck using the volume keys until 4.4 rolled out, yet in the next post you persist your "check your settings" theory.

Originally Posted by PatNY

As I said, check your settings.

Telling someone in multiple posts to check their settings after they told you how they were setup is arrogant. You didn't even have a similar device to test this on. And he explained that the developer said there was nothing he could do on the Nexus 7 until 4.4.

Originally Posted by PatNY

My browser works just fine, tyvm. The link goes to an entire page

Both of the links he posted go directly to a specific post as evidenced by their endings #post2635184 and &postcount=14. One link opens up at exactly the post he wants you to read and the other only shows you the post itself, either way if your "browser works just fine" then you seem to be being purposefully difficult.

Originally Posted by PatNY

But even after immersion you are still going to have a BLACK border on the bottom of your pages.

After this change he will have his entire screen covered by the page he is reading just like you apparently already experience. This isn't that hard to understand, SMH.

Originally Posted by PatNY

No, it's not irrelevant, because when you said "buttons" I thought you were talking about what MOST people would consider the software buttons on an Android screen:

... and not the menu/nav bar with the buttons already faded out. A lot of this conversation is moot because of this difference.

He is talking about the only software buttons that exist on a Nexus 7 the Back, Home and Menu buttons. Since these are the only software buttons on that device then MOST people who use a Nexus 7 would consider these the software buttons.

Why you keep insisting on comparing apples and oranges is beyond me.

If you don't have first hand experience then providing advice sometimes fails. After your first attempt and subsequent posts you should have realized that a Nook is not the same as a Nexus 7 a long time ago.

Originally Posted by PatNY

And, no, the black bar is certainly not the "peak of ecstasy" to me .. but neither is it an "ugly, massive black bar" that disrupts my reading enjoyment.

Since you don't experience this "ugly, massive black bar" how do you know? Personally I don't mind this bar at the bottom and even enjoy the status bar at the top, but this "ugly, massive black bar" is obviously a pet peeve of his so why do you continue poking him?

If you had looked at the images he pointed you to, you would have seen that if a parchment type of background is used then having the black space on the screen could be like a sore thumb to some folks and it is obviously bothering Faterson.

At this point in the thread I have to believe you are trolling him for fun, it might be time to move along and let him stew in his anticipation of getting the Kitkat update.

Now I have to change my volume keys back to the way they were before.