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Old 11-18-2013, 03:52 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by Faterson View Post
I strongly disagree. The row with the 3 Android buttons is a significant waste of screen real estate, and it looks ugly, too.
Again, the buttons don't show if you use the right settings. As for the row being a "significant" waste of space, it depends. On smaller devices, yes. On bigger devices with 6-7" or larger screens it is relatively insignificant, especially when talking about text-based books with flowable text. PDFs or graphics-based books are a different matter, and I think every little bit of screen space then counts, no matter what the size of the device.

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That's unacceptable to me. It still wastes a significant amount of screen real estate (for me, corresponding to 1-2 lines of text on every "page"), and it destroys the aesthetic pleasure of looking at the page. Check out the 2 screenshots linked above -- I hope you'll admit that the first of those screenshots looks perfectly hideous with the black bottom bar intruding on the very nice "old book" layout theme there.
No, I don't agree at all. Even with immersion, most will be looking at a black border around their pages (most devices are black or dark grey). So from a purely aesthetic point of view, I don't see why it would matter a whole lot if that border was 1/4" larger on the top and bottom sides.

On my 7" device, I currently get around 30 lines of text on a page. It is not going to make my reading experience significantly better if I get 31 or 32 instead. I would bet most folks using 7" or larger devices would agree on this point (the difference between 30 and 31/32 lines being insignificant).
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Everything is checked as it should be, but there is no help on Jelly Bean, other than flipping pages with the volume button on the new Nexus 7.
Please understand that every Android device may behave a bit differently running the same software, so I can only congratulate you if you're not seeing the same things I am. I also wrote to the Moon+ developer back in the Jelly Bean era, and he replied there was simply nothing he could do to ensure true full screen in Jelly Bean on the Nexus 7. Fortunately, this will no longer be important now under KitKat.
Yes, there are differences, but we're talking basic Moon+ and Mantano functionality here. I find it hard to believe I can hide the buttons when using all page turn options in reading mode on my Nook HD/HD+ running ICS under the stock OS and those with the newest Nexus 7 running Jelly Bean can't.

If that is the case, then I stand corrected and indeed feel lucky that I kept my stock B&N ROM rather than replace it with a custom one, as I use my Nook tablets primarily for reading.

However, I think you might want to check your settings anyway. Are you sure you have "Full Screen Mode" in Moon's settings checked? I'm also surprised if Jelly Bean made a difference in how many times you had to tap the screen in order to bring up Moon's nav bars and menus. I just need to tap the center of the screen once.

--Pat

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