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Old 11-17-2013, 01:55 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by jocampo View Post
iPad mini retina or old ones ?

Check Verizon and Tmobile site. I do believe that now you can bring your new retina Mini or iPad air and they will activate it.

Like I said, my new Mini is Tmobile and I was able to browse Internet with the Verizon's SIM. So clearly, the device was allow to use Verizon's cellphone towers.
iPad Air (Model A1475) and iPad mini with Retina display (Model A1490). Use yes. If you had used a new Verizon SIM card, though, you probably would have had troubles activating on your T-Mobile iPad.

The problem here isn't really technical. There's only one model of the iPad Air and iPad Mini with Retina which can be used on all partner carriers and in the US, at least, they're all unlocked. However, carriers in the US can be stupid. There's really no good reason why you can't activate a "T-Mobile" iPad on Verizon aside from Verizon's stupid whitelist. Key word here being activate. As long as you already have an active Verizon SIM, you can put it on any device (including the Nexus 7 FHD LTE) and you'll be able to use cellular data just fine.

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Originally Posted by jocampo View Post
In USA, at least a year or two ago, Tmobile technology was different. So you were not able to use a AT&T device on Tmobile and viceversa, at least! not at full speed. I think still that's the case, but the new iPad chip is not carrier dependent so makes stuff easier.
The latest iPads now support the AWS 1700 band T-Mobile uses on both 3G/HSPA and LTE. With T-Mobile's refarming of the GSM 1900 band to HSPA, even older iPads are now usable with T-Mobile 3G in majority of serviced areas (I believe T-Mobile has a press release mentioning 95% of its coverage area has been refarmed).

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Originally Posted by afv011 View Post
That does not contradict what was said earlier. As long as the SIM had been activated on a Verizon device, it would work. It is different if it is a new SIM and you inserted for the very first time on a non-Verizon device.
Yep, exactly.

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Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
I'm a little confused. Verizon is a CDMA network, isn't it? I thought that CDMA devices didn't use SIM cards
GSM/SIM card, I believe, is a requirement for LTE so all Verizon LTE devices have a SIM card slot (at least that's what I've been told). Certainly, the Verizon iPads have had SIM card slots since the iPad 3. Besides, the latest iPad models are universal supporting 14 LTE bands.

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Originally Posted by jocampo View Post
Have you visited Verizon recently ?

I'm in Texas. After buying my Tmobile mini I did. The guy in the store tried to convince me of getting a monthly plan with my new Tmobile Mini. So it looks they are relaxing the policy.
If you call customer service and try to activate a Verizon SIM on a non-Verizon iPad, you'll get a line that you can only use Verizon devices. Same is true for some corporate stores based on experience by other users from MacRumors forums. If your local store is lax on this policy, good for you. However, I'd like to see it actually working first before recommending getting a non-Verizon iPad for use with Verizon service.

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Originally Posted by jocampo View Post
Micro SIM.

My old Verizon Mini uses one, shown in the picture.

The new Minis use micro SIMs as well, including Verizon.
Correction, the iPad mini, iPad mini with Retina and iPad Air use Nano SIM (same as iPhone 5 and 5s). The iPad 2 (GSM), iPad 3 and 4 all use Micro SIM (same as iPhone 4 and 4S).

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